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Inside Psychology’s ‘Methodological Terrorism’ Debate

Discussion in 'Other Health News and Research' started by BurnA, Oct 12, 2016.

  1. BurnA

    BurnA Senior Member

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  2. worldbackwards

    worldbackwards Senior Member

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    Just another day for us.
     
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  3. Sean

    Sean Senior Member

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    Sound familiar?

     
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  4. Woolie

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    Yea, this is kind of funny to read, researchers calling other researchers "terrorists" because they criticise their work. The same tactic used for years to diminish our criticisms of research about us ("militant activism", etc).

    I liked Andrew Gelman's response to the "terrorism" claims:
     
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  5. Woolie

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    Also if you click on the link to the story about psychoticism and political beliefs, here, you will see some interesting parellels between this story what happened when the PACE folks realised they were going to have to release their data:
    Remind you of anything?
     
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    Ummm .... can't think of anything. :thumbdown::nervous::eek:o_O:D;)
     
  7. lnester7

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    Somebody should send this guy the raw PACE data. I will try to ping him on Tweeter.
     
  8. Cheshire

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    What problem? What debate? Nothing to see there, everything is perfect.

     
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  9. worldbackwards

    worldbackwards Senior Member

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    It is a thing of beauty...
     
  10. Valentijn

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    Yeah, it's in great health ... just like the ME patients who can barely function or can't even leave their houses :p Wessely = delusional.
     
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  11. worldbackwards

    worldbackwards Senior Member

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    Psychiatry's critics are simply not sufficiently motivated to see its perfection.
     
  12. alex3619

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    Its perfect something all right, just not perfect science. Psychiatry can do so much better than its doing, but a huge hurdle is to admit something is wrong and start insisting on quality science, and not lowering the bar so much that rubbish science can simply stumble over it and be considered reliable.

    PS I understood the comment as sarcasm, but you might like to add a sarcasm warning in case brainfogged people misinterpret that.
     
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  13. Tom Kindlon

    Tom Kindlon Senior Member

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    If you are willing to use your name, PubMed Commons https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedcommons/ which started in the last few years allows people to make comments without having to submit letters to the editor.

    For people who don't want to use their own name, there is PubPeer https://pubpeer.com (I believe that PubMed Commons are also copied here automatically so you get double value for them).

    To be allowed post on PubMed Commons, one does need at least one entry in PubMed, but letters to the editor suffice.
     
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    This Gelman guy wouldn't be interested in having a crack at PACE or FITNET now, would he?
     
  15. worldbackwards

    worldbackwards Senior Member

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    He has, sort of. (See threads, passim)
     
  16. Little Bluestem

    Little Bluestem All Good Things Must Come to an End

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    I think the word you were looking for is 'psychotic' rather than 'motivated'. :rolleyes:
     

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