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Inexpensive treatments for physical energy

Discussion in 'General Treatment' started by SickOfSickness, Jul 13, 2012.

  1. SickOfSickness

    SickOfSickness Senior Member

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    Please give some ideas on what else to try. Supplements and other easier cheaper treatments. I can't afford docs and tests.

    Tried these and more:
    Thyroid and adrenal treatments
    B vitamins
    Vitamin D
    Iron, magnesium, and other basics
    Changing my diet a lot
    Parasite cleansing (I need to do more of it)
    Oxygen
    Antihistamine and cutting out some allergens (I can't do more yet)
    Stimulants (I can't tolerate them)
    L-Tyrosine
    standard week course of antibiotics
    exercise (I put this on the list so you can all laugh)

    I have big problems falling asleep. Good sleep might increase my physical energy. But I think my energy is still more limited by something else, and sleep doesn't solve it.
     
  2. Rand56

    Rand56 Senior Member

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    hi SOS

    As far as the exercise aspect, and as long as you don't overdo it, I'd recommend resistance weight training over cardio. I can probably speak for others too that you get more PEM issues when overdoing the cardio, atleast I do for sure.
     
  3. xks201

    xks201 Senior Member

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    sublingual adenosylcobalamin
    transdermal dhea
    thyroid extract
    vit d

    the method of delivery and coenzyme form is essential.
     
  4. heapsreal

    heapsreal iherb 10% discount code OPA989,

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    creatine has been helping me with exercise recovery and worth a shot as its a cheap supp.
    the other thing that i find helpful is acetyl tyrosine, it seems to work much better then normal tyrosine and is good for a quick pick me up, i use NAD the same way. i think using these supps all the time the effects eventually where off, so good to use them occassionally.
     
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    xks201 Senior Member

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    The effects wear off because those supplements you mentioned are band aids. I think the coenzyme version of b12 I mentioned is particularly useful. Every symptom of M.E. is almost identical to that of b12 deficiency. The ability to convert b12 to adenosylcobalamin is something most doctors do not test for.
     
  6. SickOfSickness

    SickOfSickness Senior Member

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    Tried thyroid & vit D.

    Tried DHEA in pill form. Helps very little. Transdermal injections that I would need a prescription for?

    Have been trying Freddd's protocol with adenosylcobalamin, but it's rather confusing. No benefits so far.
     
  7. heapsreal

    heapsreal iherb 10% discount code OPA989,

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    everything is a bandaid until the exact cause is known, but if u can get some temporary help from something here and there its better then a poke in the eye with a hot stick i guess. Most energy type treatments stop working due to tolerance, so it makes sense to use them intermittently. For me i have gotten alot more out of acetyl tyrosine then the different types of b12s i have tried in the past, all these treatments we are really guessing at and if we find something that works then cool. we dont really know what will work until one tries it.
     
  8. SickOfSickness

    SickOfSickness Senior Member

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    NAD is this? http://www.allstarhealth.com/f/now-nad_b-nicotinamide_adenine_dinucleotide_25mg.htm
    NADH is common but this beta form is not.

    How many hours does the acetyl tyrosine last, and how much do you take?

    Thanks.
     
  9. taniaaust1

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    The only thing which has helped me generally to feel weller over all (so I suppose I also felt more energy along with it) was undenatured whey. The one I used (recommended to me by a CFS specialist) was called "Isowhey Complete" (it had immunoglobins, vitamins, trace elements and all kinds of things like that in it) It was a brand called Pharmafoods.

    http://www.pharmafoodsprofessional.com.au/IsowheyComplete.aspx has a list of what it has in it.
     
  10. heapsreal

    heapsreal iherb 10% discount code OPA989,

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    I use the jarrows brand acetyl tyrosine from iherb, they come in 350mg caps, i usually take 2 sometimes 3 on an empty stomache but i used them with food and it has given me a lift. How long the energy lasts??? hard to tell as its not really off and on but i suppose 4-5hrs and slowly tapers off but i find it helps me all day and doesnt negatively affect my sleep. I dont find it a stimulant type of energy more of an up beat mood, better concentration etc.

    http://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-NAD-25-mg-60-Lozenges/711 this is the nad i use, i first used this as it was taken by letting it disolve under your tongue and absorbed into the blood stream, where nadh was swallowed and had to be on an empty stomach where it was absorbed which was inconvenient when going to work as i would have to skip breakfast and eating at work could be anytime depending on my workload for the day. So i would take this on the way to work while i had breakfast before i left. NAD was sort of like a coffee hit i guess that lasted a few hours. I usually used this on days when i was really struggling and had no sick leave left. but i think acetyl tyrosine is much better. I have used both and it has been good combo. What i like about them is for me there not that over agitated type of energy.

    The nad u linked is the stuff i used. I think energy type supps are ok used every so often, you dont want to be pushing your limits all the time or you will end up worse for it. I also found the days when your absolutely crapped out that nothing works and your better off just resting in bed, but if your in that feeling sluggish type low energy, then i think they can help, if that makes sense.
     
  11. SickOfSickness

    SickOfSickness Senior Member

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    Thank you for the details. Yes, I know exactly what you mean. I need to find more that works long-term, but I also need this type to get me through 1 day or few days.
     

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