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In the UK: Taymount clinic for Fecal Transplant

Discussion in 'The Gut: De Meirleir & Maes; H2S; Leaky Gut' started by South, Jun 24, 2015.

  1. South

    South Senior Member

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    Taymount Clinic in the UK for fecal transplants:
    (Suddenly I wish I lived in the UK)

    The Good:

    They offer pre-tested fecal transplants, from healthy people who have been eating diets with prebiotics in order to boost the levels of good bacteria

    No doctor referral required. The clinic has a gastroenterologist on staff. ( ! No required other doctor to write a little note just so people can try a treatment ! )

    Patients do not have to have c. difficile to be considered for this treatment - the clinic will apply this treatment to other patients with a broad range of conditions. For example, post-antibiotic Dysbiosis, or food intolerance. I think those two conditions are fairly common amongst people here on phx rising.

    I think it's the only clinic of its kind in the northern hemisphere (there's one in southern part of the world, but is more restrictive than this one is)

    The not so Good:

    Well, there are stories scattered across the Internet about people who pay money for fecal transplants (from any clinic they can find), and only get temporary gut improvement. So, a risk is that it doesn't work.

    Sigh, I still wish I could get to the UK to try this.

    Their site is http://taymount.com/
     
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  2. lnester7

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    I think is less risky to do milk kefir grains colonics???!!!!
     
  3. South

    South Senior Member

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    Well I wouldn't touch kefir, I'm allergic to yeasts (even the "good" ones), and so kefir is not on my menu.

    Even someone who can eat yeast wouldn't get the same benefits from a kefir enema, as they would from fecal transplant: Food products like kefir and yogurt don't have the type of bacteria that permanently live in a healthy gut.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gut_flora
    "The four dominant phyla in the human gut are Firmicutes, Bacteroidetes, Actinobacteria, and Proteobacteria.[19] Most bacteria belong to the genera Bacteroides, Clostridium, Faecalibacterium,[3][11][14] Eubacterium, Ruminococcus, Peptococcus, Peptostreptococcus, and Bifidobacterium.[3][11]"

    The only one of those dominant phyla that might be found is kefir is the bifidos.
     
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    Coincidentally, I've just been wondering today if I could find someone, presumably a child, locally, to try DIY. Wow, no MD referral!
     
  5. MaximilianKohler

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    Taymount Clinic is pretty low quality.



    Won't let me link to the time, but it's t=57m30s

    They do FMT via enema only. Prep is colon cleansing via magnesium oxide salts, then colon hydrotherapy.
    They use the technique that replaces air with nitrogen when filtering the microbes during donor stool prep. They homogenize & filter out all the food almost down to microbe level size. They use a centrifuge to separate microbes. Then freeze.

    A few of those are not ideal. They say in the video they were not getting good results with capsules. That's another red flag suggesting their donor quality is low.

    There is no/too little info about donor qualifications on their website last I checked. From the results info people have given on them it's very likely they are not using high enough quality donors.

    There is info on donor selection here: https://www.reddit.com/r/HumanMicrobiome/wiki
     

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