Hi Justin If IMEA want to reclaim what was lost ie classic ME - then I will support that most definitely. But, it must be a strict adoption and understanding of classic ME in line with acknowledged recognised medical historical literature and not just simply hijacking the name to apply to a CCC definition of CFS because CCC CFS is not ME. If you want to absolutely clear and straightforward in all dealings to couteract this mess - then there must be: * a clear understanding of ME history and advocated who are well versed in it and the historic medical literature * a clear annunication of facts taken from ME historical medical literature * a clear application of those facts. That would in effect mean: * no room for inclusiong of CCC CFS or other CFS definition in disucssions * no atypical this or that othat than reference to atypical poliomyelitis * no cherry picking. Maybe, just maybe if we started the dialogue there with that criteria, then - it might be interesting to see where it led and what proposals come out of that.