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Imagining exercise can strengthen muscle

Discussion in 'Other Health News and Research' started by Marco, Dec 26, 2014.

  1. Marco

    Marco Grrrrrrr!

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    Mr psychologist, just imagine that you were paid for the therapy. I'm sure the power of mind body magic will make it real.
     
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  3. Aurator

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    This sounds disturbingly like a close cousin to a similar "revelation" we've been on the receiving end of for years:
    Scientists discover just IMAGINING being unwell can make you unwell.
     
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  4. Gondwanaland

    Gondwanaland Senior Member

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    This past night I dreamt I was riding a tall monocycle [​IMG] and woke up with PEM/fatigue :grumpy:
     
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  5. Mary

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    I think I'll imagine my house clean! :D (I hated house cleaning before I got CFS, still hate it but can't do it any more, and so hate having a dirty house - ya can't win!)
     
  6. barbc56

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    I will imagine someone else cleaning my place. That way, I won't get PEM.:rolleyes:

    Barb
     
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    That was my first thought when I read this several days ago.

    This conclusion is probably bogus, given that a huge research base already exists and has other conclusions.

    I looked into this idea nearly two years ago when I broke my leg.

    Muscle strength may have nothing to do with their claim. In prolonged limb immobilization the brain connections that govern limb use atrophy. What they showed is that activating these pathways keeps them from atrophy for a bit longer. So the basic data is probably right, but the interpretation is probably bogus.

    Prolonged immobilization will weaken a muscle, but the brain dysfunction is by far the most damaging. You can recondition muscle fast (unless you have something else wrong like ME) but the brain rewiring is hard to fix if it atrophies too much.

    I have not read the full paper, so I don't want to state more. However I am extremely dubious about the claim.
     
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    Oh, but the secret is to imagine someone else imagining yet another someone else cleaning your place. ;):ninja::rofl:
     
  9. IreneF

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    I'm imagining myself healthy, thinner, and richer.
     
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    I went to a very talented and educated physical therapist about my low back pain, and this is what she found -- missing muscle-brain connections. Every exercise she gave me was designed to reconnect the brain wiring, as well as spare my energy stores. (Almost all of them are lying-down exercises.)

    I have heard that babies dream about performing physical movements before they do them. It's why they spend so much time sleeping. (How on earth would anyone figure that out, though?)

    When learning Argentine tango (or any other dance), it really helps to go over a sequence mentally. Over and over. The students who don't retain anything new from a workshop (most of them) are the ones who don't do this. Here today, gone tomorrow.

    The brain is fascinating. When I was 16, my French teacher gave me a novel to read over the summer. I started dreaming in French. When I took Russian in college, French kept popping out of my mouth initially. When I taught college French, some students had interference from their first second-language. The brain just goes right into second-language mode, once it knows that mode. N'est-ce pas, @Gondwanaland?
     
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    This is way to philosophical for me..:redface:

    How many people does it take to imagine changing a lightbulb before the lightbulb is actually changed?

    This is some really deep S&%#. The implications are mind boggling.:lol:

    Barb
     
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    Imagine world peace. Imagine soldiers imagining world peace. Imagine war profiteers all stuck on an island off by themselves. Imagine Dick Cheney reincarnated in Afghanistan as a female.

    Yeah, you can go anywhere with this. :D
     
  13. Gondwanaland

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    Learning German 20 years ago totally blocked my skills in English back then. :smug: :cautious: :confused:
    Of course my German is totally blocked right now :meh:
     
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  14. Little Bluestem

    Little Bluestem All Good Things Must Come to an End

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    How about younger? Can I imagine away all of the years I have lost to this illness? :grumpy:
     
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    Younger! That's good. And better looking. Also smarter, more musical, and more athletic. And I'd like a different set of relatives.
     
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    :lol:

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