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I found a new MethylCobalamin lozenge that’s more effective for me than Enzymatic Therapy

Discussion in 'Detox: Methylation; B12; Glutathione; Chelation' started by R&D Don, Jan 26, 2014.

  1. knackers323

    knackers323 Senior Member

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    Can anyone tell me.

    Is it possible to increase or start methylation without needing potassium or magnesium at some point?

    I have been taking Freddd s quartet for a while now and I can't see any deficiency or need for these things.

    I have noticed the angular cheilitis but I'm able to quickly fix this with methyl folate.

    So would it seem I am not getting methylation going at all?

    Thanks
     
  2. Freddd

    Freddd Senior Member

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    Hi Knackers,

    You seem to be talking at cross purposes.

    I have noticed the angular cheilitis but I'm able to quickly fix this with methyl folate.

    So would it seem I am not getting methylation going at all?

    You are being contradictory. That you got angular cheilitis indicates broken methylation and that methylfolate fixed it indicates that methylation is working.

    So what kind of carnitine are you taking? Try the other kind. If fumarate, try ALCAR, if ALCAR try fumarate. Try the carnitine for a good week at least at 500mg or 1200mg 30 minutes before food. Other wise it is digested to amino acids and doesn't work.

    If that doesn't increase things try boosting b1 by 25 mg and see what occurs. SAM-e, TMG, Biotin, D-Ribose or all of them together might up the total methylation/ATP output. There might still be a limiting factor that is keeping it slow. It's working, no doubt. But perhaps the rate could be increased, [perhaps it can't. It really depends upon functional versus damage. Damage takes longer. Also, after all these other things then maybe titrate MeCbl. Maybe add another brand like the Country Life Methyl B12. You have hardly started.


    The first indication of not having enough magnesium might be b12 stops working. It is quite possible to not need more potassium. It appears to be approximately if ones serum potassium is greater than 4.3 then I haven't heard of that person needing much in the way of potassium. It seems mostly people under that level. Who knows. A lot of people find magnesium helps and some find that it is a critical cofactor and unblocks b12. Many are perfectly happy taking what is in a combination calcium - magnesium, others go to extremes and all sorts of forms. Magnesium is not an indicator of methylation that I know of.
     
  3. knackers323

    knackers323 Senior Member

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    Yes @Freddd I had thought I had methylation started with the cheilitis but it seems like everyone doing this treatment have a big need for potassium and to a lesser extent magnesium.

    I did not realise the treatment could be successful without developing a need for these things.

    Thanks for clearing it up.
     
  4. Phred

    Phred Senior Member

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    Has anyone taking this, been able to keep this lot# in their mouth for more than a few minutes? It seems to dissolve instantly. I can possibly get it to last for about 20 minutes, but that's just mush against my gum. I just took one now and put it under my tongue hoping it would last a little longer but it was gone in 2 minutes. I can get the Enzymatic Therapy tablets to last 2 or more hours.

    If anyone has any suggestions I'm all ears, or eyes as the case may be.
     
  5. ahmo

    ahmo Senior Member

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    @Phred, I've been using this for about 2 weeks, am very happy w/ it. It goes soft, but remains in my upper gum for more than 2 hrs. Same lot# and exp date as quoted. Using 1/3x a day. I'd been using the ET over the past year. cheers, ahmo
     
  6. Phred

    Phred Senior Member

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    @ahmo, I tried again with the Country Life. Two days ago I did manage to get it to last 2 hours. I was quite surprised. I dehydrated myself to do it, but I got it done. Yesterday I got it to last about an hour and a half. So far today I've had the two tabs in for about an hour. I don't drink anything and I try not to talk when they are in. So thank you for the encouragement. I finally got it to work. Yay!
     
  7. ahmo

    ahmo Senior Member

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    @Phred, Great news! I nearly reposted, to add that there's not a lot left after about an hour, but solid stuff does remain. I also don't drink during, but drink plenty in between. And not much talking, either. Glad you persevered.:)
     

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