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'I don't need a pub - I've got a brewery in my BELLY'

Discussion in 'The Gut: De Meirleir & Maes; H2S; Leaky Gut' started by JPV, Jul 22, 2014.

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    I had "drunk disease" for over 20 years. My understanding of this is that when yeast dies, it produces 79 toxins. As the liver metabolizes those, it is the liver that produces alcohol from processing one of them. Whatever the mechanism, it is an awful way to live. I don't know how bad I was, having never had a drink in my life, but I felt drugged every morning as if someone had given me a shot of something. I was a single mom, mortgage, teens, getting to work by 8 am with the corporate rush. It was hell getting through it. My apologies to those who like alcohol, but I just do not understand why anyone would voluntarily drink alcohol!
     
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    Care to share what steps you took to remedy the condition? Also, does it differ in any way from having a candida overgrowth or do you think it's basically just another label for the same ailment?
     
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    I have a gut brewery too. But instead of alcohol it brews gas, bloating, pain, and diarrhea. Like Mr Hogg, I have finally figured out that I have to minimize intake of carbohydrates. That means no grains (except for small quantities of tortilla chips), potatoes, most fruits, etc. I can tolerate one or two rice cakes, 1/4 apple, and so on.

    I don't think I'm actually allergic to any particular food, but I have to keep the total amount of all carbs very low or the IBS gets bad.
     
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    Really radical detoxing* that I do not recommend for anyone with ME/CFS, but it did work. I follow a strict diet of meats, eggs, greens, nuts, and almost no grains, no simple carbs (except the occasional "cheat treat") and very little fruit; white cheese once a week. I was reacting to the carbs in vegetables as well, so had to cut way back and learn food composition well. Legumes are a sometimes food. The carb side is too much. Eating rice, even brown rice, is like taking a spoon and eating sugar. I have not been able to rebuild my gut, experiencing stomach pain with pre- and probiotics. It is a work in progress, but no more daily slogging through Jell-o on that one.

    *hCG for weight loss. Read up for 5 years, realized the regimen would detox me successfully, and it did. Way too harsh a program for an ill person. Definitely broke the cycle, though.

    I think it is a result of candida and gut dysbiosis. The Japanese supposedly were the first to connect the dots and call it drunk disease.
     

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