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"How Ending 'Recovered Memory' Treatments Brought Informed Consent to Psychotherapy"

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  1. Dolphin

    Dolphin Senior Member

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    Reforming Mental Health Care: How Ending “Recovered Memory” Treatments Brought Informed Consent to Psychotherapy
    (June 6)
    http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/psy...brought-informed-consent#sthash.YxB89XDO.dpuf

    Page 2 is here: http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...ed-consent/page/0/2 &cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ie

    Informed Consent is possibly of interest in the ME/CFS field, with regard to CBT and GET.

    This article explores how change happened with recovered memory treatments.

    The impression this article gives is the big factor seems to be law suits. But other factors are mentioned:

     
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    might be useful in the cases of medical kidnappings, like with Karina Hansen - but honestly? They have consent of the appointed government guardianship...

    And honestly? I believe I was given a form of GET treatment when I was at Mayo Clinic (I wasn't told that's what it was and that was before I found this site and figured out why it seemed like it helped for a bit of time until I hit my max tolerance and got told to do 'just a bit more' until I crashed...). And I gave consent - I didn't know any better.

    If I understand the rules in the UK - they can refuse to do CBT and GET all they want. But they aren't offered alternatives if they do refuse it.

    Sadly, unless we can prove harmful intent in pushing these treatments onto us, I doubt we'll have much 'fighting' power.
     
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    Would proper informed consent not involve warning people with ME/CFS exercise therapies could make them worse? I don't think that happens much.
     
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    The issue is that the people performing those therapies don't believe that the treatment can make people worse. If they believed that it was likely to make them worse, then YES they would be required to disclose it. But since they seem to believe that it's only going to make people better... well, we have to change the mindset first. (of course, if only we could change the mindset, we'd all be better off).

    Right now, as part of informed consent before a surgery - they go through the most likely types of negative concequences (the things they believe could go wrong). But they can't list ALL of the potential negative outcomes - so for example, the fact that during an endoscopic procedure I started to vomit and as a result my stomach was cut. It wasn't part of the information for what could go wrong...but it wasn't like they 'believed' it would go wrong, hence they don't have to disclose.
     
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