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How Do You Handle Autumn?

Discussion in 'Phoenix Rising Articles' started by Firestormm, Oct 15, 2013.

  1. tatt

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    I also find myself going into hibernation mode in autumn. My metabolic rate, always low, falls further and if I don't wear gloves my skin cracks.

    I'd like to mention a few things - first vitamin D. Dr Sasha Gominak (a neurologist) says you need to keep this within a certain band for restful sleep. http://drgominak.com/vitamin-d-3/ So over-supplementation wouldn't produce greater gains. I had my levels measured, they were low (at the end of summer and after supplementing with 400 iu), I supplemented with 2000 iu overwinter and date a slow recovery from being practically bedbound to being able to do a little to the supplementation. I also eat a lot of oily fish, a good source of vitamin D. I've just gone back to supplementation after stopping for the summer and will take at least 1000iu per day. I'm considering a UVB sun lamp like this http://www.amazon.com/KBD-Vitamin-D-Lite-Flourescent/dp/B004GYB6X6/ref=pd_sim_sbs_hpc_4/190-3535071-8511601 although I'd have to have the expensive uk version http://www.phbhealthcare.com/uvb/ but as we age the skin becomes less effective at producing vitamin D and I'm no youngster :)

    Secondly there is a theory that hydrogen sulphide gas is an issue in ME http://www.cortjohnson.org/blog/2013/10/10/atp-hydrogen-sulfide-natural-killer-cells-heart-mecfs-associations-video-series-back/ If anyone knows where to get DL-propargylglycine I'd try that but as it is I'm working on trying to change my gut flora, as that may reduce hydrogen sulphide. Could diet changes affect while we feel worse in autumn? I know that in summer I eat a lot more fruit, it's been a good apple year in England so I'm still eating a lot and not feeling as bad as usual.

    I've also tried the "better on holiday" route and it does help me a little but that could be that I don't have the energy to keep my home dust free.
     
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  2. tatt

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    I forgot to mention - magnesium is often very effective in reducing pain. As many people cannot tolerate its laxative effect magnesium sulphate baths are recommended if you can take baths and a spray like this http://www.amazon.co.uk/Better-Magnesium-Original-Spray-100ml/dp/B002VPDX4W if you aren't able to bath. If taking a bath add 500gms of magnesium sulphate to a warm bath, soak for 15 minutes and pat dry, don't rub as the magnesium is absorbed through the skin. For those whose holidays include sea bathing absorption of magnesium from salt water may play a part in why they feel better on holiday.
     
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  3. rosie26

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    tatt - your mention of apples made me think of that saying "an apple a day keeps the doctor away" I wish perhaps that I had been doing that before I got ME - I wonder could it have helped ? Possibly/probably not. ?

    I start getting edgy when Autumn arrives, March in the southern hemisphere.
    We can get an early cold blast from the south in April. I find I am on high alert for it, dreading it.

    As soon as it comes my sinuses flare, inflammation increases in my head, my eyes are sorer, I start to feel off balance and more unstable on my legs. I shiver and shake and can't seem to get warm. And this increases the inflammation in the body. Like everyone else I am sick of it, utterly. What does it feel like to feel normal.

    What is worst is that the physical deterioration of ME puts me in a more fragile mental/emotional state. I struggle to be able to think things through properly. I seem to become more stuck in my head. I lose perspective easily when I least can afford too. I feel like there's no hope and I don't have a future that looks promising.
    I know that it is the increased inflammation in my head that is causing this, but knowing that still doesn't stop it from happening.
    I have never been to a psychologist in my life, but I am thinking about it. Just to see if they can give me some tips on how to deal with this. I have to concede I am not winning with this one. I have tried to manage on my own all these years.

    I am going to try vitamin d next April, be great if it helps. x
     
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  4. tatt

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    rosie26 apples are a source of vitamin C, one of the cheapest antioxidants. I eat a lot of fruit in summer (we grow some) so my diet definitely changes between summer and autumn and it made me wonder how much other people change their diets.

    My sinus problems have been better since treating nighttime reflux. I always suggest that people try raising the head of their bed by putting wooden blocks under it. If that helps medication for reflux may help further. NAC (n-acetyl-cysteine) may help by thinning mucus or a xylitol nasal spray/ 100% xylitol gum by dealing with low grade infections. While a psychologist might help you cope with the illness personally I think reducing the physical symptoms works far better.
     
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    rosie26 Senior Member

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    Thanks tatt

    I've written those things for the sinuses down to try. xx
     
  6. S.A.

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    Summer has always been better. I've always joked that instead of evolving from an ape, I evolved from a bear. Hmmm... wonder if that will show up in my 23andme...
     
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    I recently watched Dr. Sasha Gominak's 5 part video on You Tube, having seen the reference originally here on PR on another thread. I was very impressed. It turns out my Vit D level has been below normal and I've been working on raising it. It also happens that my sister alerted me to some information on Dr. Mercola's website that basically says it's very important to take some Vitamin K2 in tandem with the D--for absorption, apparently. If you're interested: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/12/16/vitamin-k2.aspx

    Good luck with raising those levels!
     
  8. L'engle

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    Summer is my tough season, so I love Fall/Autumn and feel relieved by it! I seem to do better in Winter as it is easier to gt adequate rest. But I know it is the opposite for many others.
     
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    ha I love fall/winter since getting ME. The shortest say of the year has 7.5 hours light here. I like it as i doesn't feel like I'm missing out on life as much. When the sun goes down at 4pm I am ready for bed!
     
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    Fall and winter are my favorite seasons, too. I feel more alive then, so much better than in the summer.

    However, I live in TX, and our summers are just hellacious. Our falls and winters are mild and beautiful.
     
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    Differences of opinion based in latitude :)

    Low light in autumn & winter is a problem for those of us living at higher latitudes: Northern Europe, Northern USA & Canada.The contrast is all the more because summer days are long & winter ones so short

    So how do people deal with the seasonal gloom that sends our bodies into hibernation mode?
     
  12. Valentijn

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    I like autumn. The weather is moderate and it's never really felt gloomy to me. I'm also fairly sure that humans don't hibernate, though I could be wrong.
     

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