Apparently, not everyone experiences cold or flu the same way. I have tried to explain "flu-like" to doctors, and we seem to have no common ground of understanding. When I ask them how they feel when they are sick they say they are tired or worn out. And frankly, I don't understand this. When I got a cold or flu and had to cancel a social engagement, I didn't call and say "I can't meet you, I'm feeling tired." Or, "I can't meet you, I'm feeling fatigued." Being tired or fatigued was a part of life. I was always tired after work. No big deal. It never stopped me from going out. Never kept me from shopping. Etc. When I got a cold or flu there was a sensation going through my body like a generalized ache, there was pressure in my face, difficulty focusing, feeling spaced out, plus something I can't describe. It's that general feeling of unwellness that's called "malaise," except mine is not vague. Sort of like having a hangover, but much worse. It is incapacitating. Just like nausea is incapacitating, without being pain or fatigue. Am I the only one who feels this??? So I have a question. Before you got ME/CFS, did the cold and flu feel like being "real tired" to you, or where there other sensations going on? How would you describe it?