Hi Ive recently been diagnosed with high night time cortisol and need to get it down. My doctor suggested anti depressants but as I was averse to that we finally agreed on valium. My pharmcist was concerned that this could be a bad marriage with CFS symptons however I decided to give it a whirl and waited until after Christamas when I took a 1/4 of a 5mg tablet before bed - I am still reeling 3 days later and wont be going down that path again any time soon. Xanax is supposed to be effective also and is a 'newer' drug than valium but I have decided to try a more natural route. From my googling effort which I could only finally manage yesterday, to get cortisol down, the following appear to be recommended by general consensus (as determined by me from my googling this subject): Rhodiola, Phosphatidylserine, Ashwagandha, Holy Basil/Tulsi and REishi Mushroom. Even Dr Oz recommends several of these for lowering cortisol (lol!). Another thread here suggested Relora (a patent blend of Phellodendron amurense and Magnolia officinalis - Traditional Chinese Medicine herbs). Magnolia officinalis is known as magnolia bark and was mentioned in many of the articles I researched yesterday. I dont know much about Phellodendron amurense but googling it only brings it up in relation to its presence in Relora and on its own has more antibacterial properties??) I would say the key ingredient for cortisol reduction in Relora is the magnolia bark and that can be ordered on its own. Relora is made by a number of brands and can be purchased on iherb. Rich vank had phosphatidylserine in his simplified protocol until he replaced it with lecithin because "it can decrease cortisol in patients whose cortisol is already too low", so this could be a natural solution for me. Q: I am desperate and would purchase all but am keen to canvas others experience and recommendations on any or all of the above in reducing cortisol (as I ran out of bench space for all my vitamins and supplements a while ago ) Other suggestions also welcome! [There is a product that I found after I posted this thread which combines all the above, except phosphatidylserine - Now Super Cortisol Support http://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-Super-Cortisol-Support-90-Vcaps/5022?at=0 which may be the ticket in addition to phosphatidylserine ???] - however, I still seek advice. Do Rich Vank or Freddd have any suggestions?? Big thanks again ps Ofcourse meditation and yoga and other stress relievers are de rigour in reducing cortisol but I need more immediate help right now!