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Histamine Intolerance

confetti11

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Hello, if you suspect you could have histamine intolerance, would allergy season (high pollen count) potentially make all of your CFS symptoms worse?
 

echobravo

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Don't have specific answer to your question, but I remember from Dr. Walsh's excellent book "Nutrient Power" that high histamine and pollen allergy is quite common if you are a so called "Undermethylator" (scarcity of methyl groups for critical biological processes). High homocysteine is another characteristic.

This article tries to connect it all - MTHFR, homocysteine, histamine, undermethylator.

http://mentalhealthdaily.com/2015/0...vs-overmethylation-causes-symptoms-treatments

Note that if you wanna try a "methylation protocol" to increase your available CH3 (methyl groups), that Dr. Walsh has found through 30 years of practice that "Undermethylators" (UM) are often intolerant of FOLATE and should use SAMe and Methionine (what about TMG?) instead - in addition to supplements like; B-6, Zn, Ca, Mg, antioxidants (Vitamins A, C, D, E + Selenium). He recommends UMs to avoid: Choline, Folate, DMAE, B-5, Mangan, Copper.

People with high histamine need to bring it down before starting methylation nutrient therapy by taking B-6 and Serine (PhosphatidylSerine?).

Read the book. One of the best I have read on the subject of biochemistry and methylation.

https://www.amazon.com/Nutrient-Power-Heal-Biochemistry-Brain/dp/1626361282
 
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Don't have specific answer to your question, but I remember from Dr. Walsh's excellent book "Nutrient Power" that high histamine and pollen allergy is quite common if you are a so called "Undermethylator" (scarcity of methyl groups for critical biological processes). High homocysteine is another characteristic.

This article tries to connect it all - MTHFR, homocysteine, histamine, undermethylator.

http://mentalhealthdaily.com/2015/0...vs-overmethylation-causes-symptoms-treatments

Note that if you wanna try a "methylation protocol" to increase your available CH3 (methyl groups), that Dr. Walsh has found through 30 years of practice that "Undermethylators" (UM) are often intolerant of FOLATE and should use SAMe and Methionine (what about TMG?) instead - in addition to supplements like; B-6, Zn, Ca, Mg, antioxidants (Vitamins A, C, D, E + Selenium). He recommends UMs to avoid: Choline, Folate, DMAE, B-5, Mangan, Copper.

People with high histamine need to bring it down before starting methylation nutrient therapy by taking B-6 and Serine (PhosphatidylSerine?).

Read the book. One of the best I have read on the subject of biochemistry and methylation.

https://www.amazon.com/Nutrient-Power-Heal-Biochemistry-Brain/dp/1626361282
I just got the Pyroluria/Histamine test back and I have high Histamine. But I also have high Serotonin which is odd. I took 5 HTP and got a massive migraine. My doctor was looking right at Walsh protocol and he told me to take 5 mg of Manganese. I'm just confused if Histamine is the whole picture. I thought for sure i was OM based on symptoms.