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HELP Prof. Servando P. on HUNGER STRIKE! Support letter, URGENT!!

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS News' started by serg1942, Jul 28, 2010.

  1. serg1942

    serg1942 Senior Member

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    Hi everybody,

    (Please read the situation of Servando Prez, a very sick person on hunger strike here):

    http://www.forums.aboutmecfs.org/sh...-hunger-strike&p=105784&viewfull=1#post105784

    Servando Prez is the President of the association I belong to, MERCURIADOS (www.mercuriados.org), as well as a friend and an extraordinary person. He is in a very delicate situation, risking his life to try to get his right of being attended properly by the Spanish public health system (Social Security), for the conditions he was diagnosed by the very same Social Security that now is trying to hide it all! He has been officially diagnosed with chronic mercury poisoning from amalgam fillings, and, as a result, also was diagnosed with CFS, FM, MQS, mitochondrial myopathy, and with a myriad of other conditions that have being appearing over time.

    If you would like to help Servando, please sign this
    letter of support:

    http://www.asquifyde.es/uploads/noticias/ESCRITO DE ADHESIÓN A SERVANDO PÉREZ publicado en web.rtf

    (try the following link if the first doesn't work):
    http://www.sfc-em-investigacion.com...DHESION A SERVANDO PEREZ publicado en web.doc

    (You’ll find the English version of the letter at the bottom of this Word file)

    It must be filled out, attached, and forwarded to the following e-mails at the same time, with the subject: “Carta de adhesin en apoyo a Servando Prez” –meaning: “Letter in support of Servando Prez”:

    mercuriados@gmail.com
    cristobeja@hotmail.com

    Your help will be much appreciated!. His fight is also our fight!

    Thanks to you all, and wishing the best to Servando,
    Sergio

    P.S. Please, forward this message to all the people you know who would also be willing to help Servando.
     
  2. Alesh

    Alesh Senior Member

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    I am neither a chemist nor omniscient but as I understand it the dental amalgam is a chemical compound of mercury and another metal so that the toxic mercury is extremely strongly chemically bound in the amalgam. Would you ban the use of the common salt? It is a chemical compound of sodium, which explodes on contact with water, and chlorine, which is a chemical weapon. But yes, common salt has quite a low LD 50. So what is the problem with dental amalgam? Is it the mercury leaving the chemical bond-my guess is that it is an extremely exceptional event-or is it the toxicity of the amalgam as a whole? But in any way I don't intend to belittle the courage of prof. Servando Prez. In the context of CFS I don't believe anything: I even have a wedding ring made of tungsten and it is known that the fragments of tungsten weapons cause malignancies if went unnoticed in human body. But I can't take it off-it is the wedding ring. :D
     
  3. maryb

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    Serg please let us know how Servando is, I have sent him an e-mail, I do hope he is okay. For some reason I can't sign the letter of support, it won't let me type onto it.
     
  4. acer2000

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    The problem with dental amalgam is that mercury gets released from the solution over the life of the filling. Some of this mercury ends up in the person who has the filling and bioaccumulates. Also, placing and removing amalgam fillings expose the patient and the dentist to a decent amount of mercury vapor. Some dentists claim its harmless, but most people accept that being exposed to mercury, even the small amounts that leak from fillings can cause health problems and is unnecessary in todays world where many non-mercury filling compounds exist. Finally, the disposal of old amalgam fillings from dental offices poses a significant threat to the environment. The dental industry is one of the largest contributors to mercury pollution in the developed world.

    The question really is, since they have other materials to fill teeth with that don't have any mercury in them, and since mercury is known to be toxic to humans in any amount, why don't they just stop using amalgam fillings altogether? Amalgam restoration material is a 19th century technology that was grandfathered in by the FDA when it was created in the early 20th century and not subject to safety trials. It would not pass FDA approval if proposed today.

    IIRC some european countries have banned the use of dental amalgam containing mercury, and others prohibit its use in women who are pregnant, children, and treat working in a dental office as occupational exposure. Of course in the USA, dentists are not even required to inform patients about the mercury content of fillings and the risk of leakage before they accept amalgam, nor are they required to give patients a choice of other compounds. Women dentists and dental assistants are allowed to work through pregnancy with no monitoring of mercury exposure levels - raising concerns about exposure to their unborn children.
     
  5. Alesh

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    Thank you for the explanation, Acer. I think I have read about the possibility of growing a new tooth from stem cells. It would be even better solution. :Retro smile: Also the tobacco smoke contain mercury.
     
  6. garcia

    garcia Aristocrat Extraordinaire

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    This is misleading and false. There is no chemical bond. Amalgam is a mixture of metals, and mercury vapour leaches 24/7 from amalgam fillings. This is a scientifically indisputable fact.

    This is what Goodman and Gilman's, the "bible" of pharmacologics has to say on the issue:

    Here is a picture of mercury vapour being released from a tooth:

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    and a video from the International Academy of Oral Medicine and Toxicology with further information:

    [video=youtube;9ylnQ-T7oiA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ylnQ-T7oiA[/video]

    And here are microscopic beads of liquid mercury forming from amalgam:

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    This is what happens when you put (radioactive-labelled) mercury in a sheeps mouth after only 1 month [Hahn, LJ; et al. Dental “silver” tooth fillings: a source of mercury exposure revealed by whole body scan and tissue analysis. FASEB J, 3:2641-6, 1989.]:
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    The mercury is found in the (a) sheep's gastrointestinal tract, (b) kidneys, the (c) gum and alveolar bone of the jaws and (d) liver. The mercury was also found (in lower concentrations) in the the sheep's brain, cerebrospinal fluid, pituitary gland, thyroid, and adrenals.

    The pro-amalgam dental associations complained that sheep are ruminants and do not chew like humans. So a repeat experiment was performed, this time with monkeys [Hahn, LJ; et al. Whole-Body Imaging of the Distribution of Mercury Released from Dental Fillings into Monkey Tissues. FASEB J. 4:3256-609 1990.]:

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    As you can see the results for monkeys were pretty much the same as for sheep. Remember this is only after 1 month of exposure. Imagine what a lifetime's exposure could do to a person.

    Here is what the United Nations Global Mercury Assessment 2002 has to say on the issue:
    Here is what Martindale, the complete drug reference has to say:

    Here is what some of the world's foremost toxicologists have to say on the issue:

    This is what the manufacturer's of amalgam have to say on it's safety:

    In 1997, the amalgam manufacturers Dentsply-Caulk and Ivoclar-Vivadent, altered their Manufacturer’s Safety Data Sheets (MSDS) for Germany and California to include the following adverse health effects from chronic inhalation and/or ingestion:

    This is what the BDA (British Dental Association) has to say on the issue:

    There is a substantial body of scientific literature documenting the release of mercury vapour from amalgam fillings. Just one example:

     
  7. Alesh

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    Thank you for the additional and more precise information. I would like to answer myself the question of whether one's body absorbs more mercury by smoking one cigarette a year or by lifetime exposure to amalgam fillings. If I have enough brain power I will look at it. I remember having read that there was a well documented case of a female professor of chemistry, who died from a neurological disease few months after working with dimethyl mercury, a small drop of which landed on her latex gloves she wore during the work. Toxic materials can be extremely dangerous: 1 mcg of botulinum toxin, which is a dose that is invisible by the naked eye, can quite reliably kill a 100kg person. On the other hand the claims of poisoned food, clothes etc. is quite often a part of delusional thinking of patients with schizophrenia and psychoses in general so one should be fairly cautious when talking about such suspicions with some conceited MD, who anyway considers a patient with CFS to be mentally ill. (I hope you understand what I want to say despite the language barrier.) :Retro smile:
     
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    The case you speak of sounds very familiar, I believe it happened at Dartmouth College in New Hampshire, USA.

    FYI
     
  9. garcia

    garcia Aristocrat Extraordinaire

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    Alesh, you don't have to "look at it". All you have to do is read the quotes from the experts I quoted above. Not that difficult really.

    Here is one from the United Nations:

    Here is one from Goodman & Gillman's:
    Take home message: for the majority of the population dental amalgam is the main source of mercury exposure.
     
  10. Alesh

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    My very rough and imprecise guesses are as follows: The density of mercury is 14500 kg/m^3. The total surface of the amalgam in mouth from which mercury can evaporate can be around 0.0002 m^2. During one's lifetime this surface can shrink by may be 0.000001m. There is about 50% of mercury by weight in the amalgam. So if all the mercury really evaporates and it is not due to abrasion one absorbs during his lifetime about 1mg of mercury from his amalgam fillings. An average smoker (20 cigarettes/day) also seems to absorb about 1mg of mercury during his lifetime. Does it mean anything? I don't know. :confused:
     
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    garcia Aristocrat Extraordinaire

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    Please leave the toxicology to the toxicologists. See above for references and further info. Your "back of the envelope" calculations are not useful or meaningful.
     
  12. Alesh

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    :D And you should learn to quote precisely: The correct quotation from "Goodman & Gilman's The Pharmacological Basis of Therapeutics ", McGraw-Hill Professional; 11 edition (October 28, 2005) is as follows:

    "Mercury vapor also can be released from silver-amalgam dental restorations. In fact, this is the main source of mercury exposure to the general population, but the amount of mercury released does not appear to be of significance for human health (Eley and Cox, 1993) except for allergic contact eczema seen in a few individuals."
     
  13. garcia

    garcia Aristocrat Extraordinaire

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    *does not appear to be of significance* is a weasel phrase. It is impossible to prove, therefore it is a vacuous statement. In any case it contradicts your claim that cigarettes have more mercury than dental amalgam.
     
  14. Alesh

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    It doesn't. It isn't even proved that all the radioactive stuff in tobacco smoke like Polonium 210 is of significance for the health of a smoker. I believe you use the logical fallacy of argumentum ad ignorantiam: P has never been disproven therefore P is/(must be) true. (Wikipedia) In my opinion there is a difference between the amalgamist activism and, say, homeopathic activism. Homeopathic activism is a clear infatuation and a loss of time but there could be a trace of importance in amalgamist activism. :D

    P.S.: Perhaps Prof. Perz will be cured by the fasting; there is something like the therapeutic fasting and I think it could be effective and I wish the fasting help him with his health if not with his case.
     

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