GreenMachineX
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I’m in a difficult place right now with my recovery and can’t figure out the next step. I was taking 1 cap of LEF’s 2 per day for a year with fairly good results, tons of energy, no allergies, just felt pretty good overall, sleeping well. But, I’ve recently figured out that during that, and when I’ve used Thorne’s 2 per day at 1 cap a day, I was also using Gaia Rhodiola. When I stop it, those multis give me horrible terminal insomnia. I go to bed fine, but wake up in 2 hours and have to take taurine, niacin, theanine, melatonin, etc to go back to sleep and still feel malaise and inflammation the next day after that kind of sleep. When I workout, that next day insomnia-hangover feeling is that much worse.
I thought it was due to too much b6, but now I’m thinking maybe it’s the 150-300mcg of Methyl b12 in it. I can sleep just fine with a multi that has 75mcg Methyl b12, but I don’t have the same energy boost all day. Right now I’m using Thorne’s Basic Nutrients III at 1 cap which gives me 2mg p5p, 175mcg methylfolate, and 75mcg methylb12 and sleep fine. But, 2 caps of this and I struggle with sleep. I bought Seeking Health’s Optimal Methyl One multi, which has 20mg p5p, 400mcg methylfolate, and 25mcg Methyl and hydroxy b12. But, I’m nervous about it because I’ve had some horrible experiences that resulted in ER trips from the wrong combination.
If it’s the b12, why does only 150mcg give me insomnia?
I can’t just stop taking a multi because those side effects are even worse (throat feels like it’s closing after meals, prickly skin sensations, lethargy, etc). And something is causing this angular cheilitis. Maybe just more riboflavin with the 1 cap of Thorne 3? The angular cheilitis didn’t show up until I stopped taking the LEF multi which has doses of the b vitamins upwards of 20-30mg each.
Anyone have any thoughts? I have p5p, and riboflavin to experiment with as well, just scared of making the wrong move.
I thought it was due to too much b6, but now I’m thinking maybe it’s the 150-300mcg of Methyl b12 in it. I can sleep just fine with a multi that has 75mcg Methyl b12, but I don’t have the same energy boost all day. Right now I’m using Thorne’s Basic Nutrients III at 1 cap which gives me 2mg p5p, 175mcg methylfolate, and 75mcg methylb12 and sleep fine. But, 2 caps of this and I struggle with sleep. I bought Seeking Health’s Optimal Methyl One multi, which has 20mg p5p, 400mcg methylfolate, and 25mcg Methyl and hydroxy b12. But, I’m nervous about it because I’ve had some horrible experiences that resulted in ER trips from the wrong combination.
If it’s the b12, why does only 150mcg give me insomnia?
I can’t just stop taking a multi because those side effects are even worse (throat feels like it’s closing after meals, prickly skin sensations, lethargy, etc). And something is causing this angular cheilitis. Maybe just more riboflavin with the 1 cap of Thorne 3? The angular cheilitis didn’t show up until I stopped taking the LEF multi which has doses of the b vitamins upwards of 20-30mg each.
Anyone have any thoughts? I have p5p, and riboflavin to experiment with as well, just scared of making the wrong move.