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Heavy metal detoxing

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS Discussion' started by Lisa6235, Sep 21, 2013.

  1. Radio

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    Hey, Check the Histamine chef diet. It's a great diet for controlling allergies and dealing with mast-cell issues.
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    Brian, who you "met", has had angina since he was 45 and has been on CPAP for years. He wouldn't mind me saying this because we are both "pay it forward" guys who are trying to help the next guy up.
    As you know he is mercury toxic. Mercury interferes with energy production..mostly through interference with methylation. This is most likely to show up in the 2 organs that use the most energy - the brain (me) and the heart (bro). Not sure where breathing problems fit in. I suggest that you talk to Brian, he will know more about this. brad
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    Hi Stridor---

    I also want to do IV chelation, Can you please tell how much the entire package cost you ? I know it will not be the same for all, but I need a ballpark figure.

    The metals I am fighting are Arsenic (VERY high), mercury, and aluminum.

    My dr is great. He is "Integrative" but he also discouraged IV Chelation as his dentist friend had it done and developed a tremor. He gave me MetalloClear which was OK and did SOMETHING, but I think it made me worse. I feel more cognitive fog and fatigue than ever.

    However, I am very ill right now and need help. I may have to go to a naturopath who will do it.

    From the consult to the last IV......and each session......what was your cost?

    Thank you and I agree- WE HAVE TO FIGHT for our health. I will save up what I have to in order to get the IV chelation.
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    @OkRadLakPok
    If you are trying to chelate mercury then you would be advised to do it orally and follow the Cutler Protocol. In my opinion, there is no safe and effective way to chelate by IV. The dentist that you mentioned is an example of the type of damage that can be done. Even oral chelation is not a walk in the park. I never had ME until I took the fillings out.
    I have completed over 200 rounds since Jan 2011. I did take about 40 ACE and Vit C treatments by IV in an heroic but unsuccessful attempt to save my adrenal glands. They were $125 each plus travel expenses.
    Many people add DMSA to their capsules to chelate lead at the same time I chose to take ALA only and now that the mercury is gone, I am concentrating on the lead. I am doing EDTA by IV at $150 a pop.
    It is important that EDTA not be tried until mercury is cleared as it has made people very ill. Save your money for the supplements that you will need.
    Consider joining FDC on yahoo as you will get a lot of help there plus have access to the files which contain a wealth of info.
    brad
  5. maryb

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    @stridor
    my osteopath has suggested I leave my last 2 amalgam fillings in as I've had them for 40yrs.... I've struggled with already having 6 removed, no worse but no better ( I get worse initially after removal and then slowly get back to where I was previously)
    I was interested that your ME started after having fillings removed, I must admit I am worried about getting worse and not recovering, I remember someone saying Cheyney's advice was to have 1 a year removed. I just feel at my age I'm running out of time and the ability to fight on.

    I just feel so strongly about having an amalgam free mouth - but the risk is damaging my health further??
    My last 2 are wisdom teeth and I can't have the rubber dam as its not possible to get it on that far back in the mouth.
    Other than that he is a good dentist - alternative air supply, face and eye cover.
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    @maryb
    I feel for you. IMHO, your reaction to amalgam removal suggests "full bucket syndrome". And because of this I feel that Hg is driving your health issues. I had the same response only magnified. I also lost thyroid and adrenal function. Your concerns over get,ting sick are real.
    Most people do not react to the Hg they are exposed to having this work done. A test for heavy metals may help you decide what to do next.
    I guess pulling the last two teeth sounds drastic? brad
  7. maryb

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    @stridor
    thanks for replying - I'm also a bit worried about the heavy metals test my doc wants me to do (DMSA) I just feel I'm already in a fragile state and it wouldn't take much to tip me.
    funny you should say that about extractions - I was awake the other night going over and over in my mind whether I should solve it this way. Then you have the problem of getting an infection in the extraction site, I already have chronic strep infections.
    should I or not??? I really need to think about that option though.
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    Thank you, Stridor.
    It is scary. Have you ever heard of MetalloClear? I have done that in three phase, each time with terrible reactions. The last one did me in.

    I have done ALA, too. I just react to everything.

    I am bad off right now and cannot eat without feeling sick and cannot run anymore. I also have been getting anaphylaxis and allergies.

    I used to do marathons, and with the last MetalloClean......pow....I can walk, but have to go slow and push myself. Feel sick all the time and starting to panic.

    It may have wacked out minerals.
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    @maryb In my opinion the hair test is more informative and ultra-safe. If you are interested go to yahoo FDC and they will advise.
    My brother will read it for you (some of us are hoarders and will show low when we are high).
    Some dentists will not extract viable teeth...but they will make exceptions for wisdom teeth. No one but you can make this decision but given your history, I would line-up some liposomal C or IV C for after removal. I put my recipe on here someplace for liposomal C. Brad
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    @OkRadLakPok
    Listen... Please. This is not a competition but I can assure you that I was likely sicker. You can get better but not without "getting smarter"...at least I had to.
    You will get sicker with chelation -the question is how sick? If you ignore the half-life of the chelating agent, Hg will be released to promote oxidation and enzyme disruption. You will have to do some research....or do what I did. Find the smartest guy you can, who made the recovery you hope to make and then do what they did.
    Hence, I followed the Cutler Protocol. At least buy "Amalgam Illness" and learn about your enemy :). Brad
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    @stridor
    thanks your advice is appreciated.

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