@jann1033 I was told 5yrs as well by an internist who now believes it doesn't exists. I guess he figured if you are not well after 5yrs then it must be in your head. whatever.[/quote] Lol, exact same thing happened to me. Interesting about the relapse as that also happened. Around the 10 year mark had a horrendously bad relapse and while out of necessity, I changed my approach, i never got back to where I was pre relapse.before I had some tines of probably 50+% pre illness energy, now its never above probably 30%. This last relapse while not as severe was weird too. Least amount of overexertion ( like when I parked instead of valeted at the Dr yesterday) and I'm walking like i m drunk, even with a cane I hit the hall walls a number of times trying to get back to the car.I really hope that goes away.