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Hair Mineral Testing

Discussion in 'Alternative Therapies' started by Dog Person, Mar 10, 2012.

  1. Little Bluestem

    Little Bluestem Senescent on the Illinois prairie, USA

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    I did not realize this change took place in 1997-8. Weren't we buying 'enriched' flour long before that?
     
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    LBS hereis a post from rich

     
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    Barb C

    Hair is more stable than other tissues which change constantly.

    Brenda
     
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    "Folate intake from foods has always been around 300 mcg per day, and jumped sharply when folic acid intake became mandatory in 1998. The USDA estimates that intake of folate, including folic acid, jumped from 372 mcg per person per day in 1997 to 678 mcg in 1998, and has remained above 665 mcg ever since."

    Food Fortification: A Risky Experiment?
     
  5. Little Bluestem

    Little Bluestem Senescent on the Illinois prairie, USA

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    I wasn't doubting it. I was just wondering if that was when enrichment started or if they added extra folate at that time. I was also wondering if I just hadn't noticed or if they did it on the QT.
     
  6. hixxy

    hixxy Woof woof

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    Is Christine even continuing to have contact with anyone here? I completely mised the hair mineral test bandwagon before she was banned. Curious about some previous HMT I had done. Might even get a new one done if I can get a decent analysis.

    Also requested to join the FB group, waiting on a response.
     
  7. dmholmes

    dmholmes Senior Member

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    Yes, there are a few of us working with her as far as I know.
     
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    brenda Senior Member

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    from Christine

    http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/bk-1987-0354.ch014

    Manganese Usage in Humans as Affected by Use of Calcium Supplements

    Susan D. McDermott and , Constance Kies

    Department of Human Nutrition and Food Service Management, University of Nebraska, Lincoln, NE 68583

    Nutritional Bioavailability of Manganese

    Chapter 14, pp 146151

    Chapter DOI: 10.1021/bk-1987-0354.ch014

    ACS Symposium Series, Vol. 354

    ISBN13: 9780841214330eISBN: 9780841211995

    Publication Date (Print): October 05, 1987

    Copyright 1987 American Chemical Society

    Abstract

    Calcium has long been implicated as a dietary factor which inhibits the absorption of manganese. Since manganese is better absorbed in the oxidized (+2) than in the reduced state (+3 or +4), any factor which increases gastrointestinal tract pH (increases alkalinity) would be expected to inhibit manganese utilization. Calcium carbonate, a commonly used antacid by humans as well as a calcium nutrienhttp://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/bk-1987-0354.ch014
     
  9. Lynn_M

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    It is my belief that when reference is made to "Christine's company", that it is not referring to Christine's company called "Hairs to Health", which is her solo practice, wherein she advises individual clients. Rather, I think the reference is to Analytical Research Labs, Inc. in Phoenix, AZ, www.arltma.com. This is the facility that Christine's clients send their hair samples to. ARL does the hair testing and provides automated interpretations and supplement advice, but they do far more than that. ARL was founded in 1974 by Dr. Paul Eck, who researched and pioneered many aspects of hair analysis. The company continues researching, as evidenced by the information on their website. So I think ARL is the one developing the theories.
     
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    I'm not sure which reference that refers to, but to me Christine's company referes to Hairs to Health. She does use ARL of course for hair testing. I didn't receive any "automated interpretations and supplement advice" from ARL, but detailed information from Christine. Yes ARL was founded by Dr. Eck, a little background here.
     
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    dmholmes Senior Member

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    Here's a more detailed response from Christine:

     
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    Has anyone paid her the $200 dollars she charges for a hair analysis? Did she ever reveal that she does charge for this service? I can see a senario where lots of people might have questions and in the long run end up getting her test.

    In my opinion, this says volumes.

    Barb C.:>)
     
  13. Kina

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    Generally, when a person orders an Hair Analysis from ARL, they receive a print out with detailed information regarding their test and a list of suggested supplements (from their company). I believe when you use Christines company, the results are sent directly to her, rather than to the customer. So are Christine's customers are paying for an analysis they are not getting from the company which is actually included in the price of the Hair Analysis?

    Kina.
     
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    I had a hair mineral analysis done by a different practitioner several months back. She also used ARL, and ordered the test for me. So it came back to her and she made her recommendations and sent them to me.

    Her fee was $195, slightly less than Christine's, but she also added an additional $290 for about 8 supplements that she insisted I needed, for a total of $475. I ended up not being able to tolerate 6 of them, and each time I spoke w/her, she had a different explanation, and suggested different dietary recommendations.

    Christine was kind enough to take a look at that test -- for free -- and give her recommendations, based on her own hypothesis and research. I've cut my supplements down from more than 15-20 a day (plus was taking a lot of betaine HCL with each meal) to needing a TOTAL of four capsules, in divided doses, that last all day long. Probably will cost me $10 a month. Her interpretation makes a lot more sense to me, and while I can't speak for others, no one held a gun to my head to choose this path, nor has anyone coerced me into buying any additional products.
     
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    hixxy Woof woof

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    How do you compare how you feel between taking the 15-20 supplements to what you are currently on?

    I have a hypochlorhydria (possibly achlorhydria), has your newer supplement regime restored your stomach acid production or are you just doing without?
     
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    I contacted Christine through her website and requested a hair analysis in March. I've since gotten the results back along with her analysis. I've been following her supplement schedule for about 2 weeks now with nice improvement in overall energy. We'll see how it holds up.

    David
     
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    Barb, if you personally have no interest or faith in hair analysis, why do you insist on spending so much of your energy in this neighborhood? I don't get it.

    And your point is?

    About you, or Christine?

    With all due respect, we're not idiots, we can make choices for ourselves.
     
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    It's too soon to tell, but I don't feel in any way worse, and I'm quite surprised that my digestion is doing okay without the betaine HCL(and I was taking 7 capsules with each meal). She pointed out that the betaine in the HCL is a methyl donor, which may deplete b2 and manganese, so I should avoid that while I'm trying to increase my levels of the two nutrients.
     
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    dmholmes Senior Member

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    I'm not sure about the last part, but I suppose so. I'm not personally interested in the ARL results.
     
  20. Kina

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    I think my comments have been misinterpreted. I didn't say anything about coercion. I was just commenting that ARL sends people quite a comprehensive interpretation as they do for all people in this line of work. People don't see the analyses from ARL if they don't order it directly. I really don't know if the hair analysis interpreters are using the interpretations provided by ARL -- that's all. Doesn't really matter in the long run though, if something works, it works and that's the most important thing of all.
     

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