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Gut Problems, Allergies, AutoImmune all linked to GMO pathogens

Discussion in 'Other Health News and Research' started by leela, May 27, 2011.

  1. leela

    leela Slow But Hopeful

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    Two very important articles pertaining to our health situation:

    Scientist writes to Secretary of Ag regarding new pathogen being generated by round-up ready crops:
    http://farmandranchfreedom.org/gmo-miscarriages

    Bt crops also causing major disease/allergies:
    http://appprecautionaryprinciple.wo...ound-in-women-and-fetuses-by-jeffrey-m-smith/


    excerpts:

    From Prf. Huber:

    "For the past 40 years, I have been a scientist in the professional and military agencies that evaluate and prepare for natural and manmade biological threats, including germ warfare and disease outbreaks. Based on this experience, I believe the threat we are facing from this pathogen is unique and of a high risk status. In laymans terms, it should be treated as an emergency.

    This previously unknown organism is only visible under an electron microscope (36,000X), with an approximate size range equal to a medium size virus. It is able to reproduce and appears to be a micro-fungal-like organism. If so, it would be the first such micro-fungus ever identified. There is strong evidence that this infectious agent promotes diseases of both plants and mammals, which is very rare."

    From the Smith article:

    "In the human study, some of the subjects were found to have Roundup Ready gut bacteria! This means that sometime in the past, from eating one or more meals of GM soybeans, the gene that had been discovered in the chemical waste dump and forced into the soy, had transferred into the DNA of bacteria living inside their intestinesand continued to function. That means that long after we stop eating GMOs, we may still have dangerous GM proteins produced continuously inside of us."

    "When natural Bt-toxin was fed to mice, they had tissue damage, immune responses as powerful as cholera toxin, and even started reacting to other foods that were formerly harmless. Farm workers exposed to Bt also showed immune responses. "

    "In government-sponsored research in Italy, mice fed Monsantos Bt corn showed a wide range of immune responses. Their elevated IgE and IgG antibodies, for example, are typically associated with allergies and infections. The mice had an increase in cytokines, which are associated with allergic and inflammatory responses. The specific cytokines (interleukins) that were elevated are also higher in humans who suffer from a wide range of disorders, from arthritis and inflammatory bowel disease, to MS and cancer."
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    ETA: Huber wrote to the Sec of Ag, urging him to stop the deregulation of GMO crops. He subsequently approved the GMO alfalfa and the lifting of the so-called "buffer" zones.
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  2. Nielk

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    This is so weird because I am just watching the documentary: "Food Inc." by director Robet Kenner and it's just talking about the gmos in our crops od corn and soybean and how the company Monsanto is the biggest supplier and is forcing farmers to do it their way or else they are out of the contract which means business suicide for them.
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    Shellbell Senior Member

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    "Food Inc." is a really informative documentary. It is criminal what Monsanto is doing to all of us and how much power his company has. One of my friend's families owned a GMO farm in Illinois (both corn and soy). Doing it Mansanto's way brought them a lot of money. However, they recently sold the farm. They couldn't take it anymore because of the restrictions and guidelines that had to be followed. They also didn't feel right selling crops that they now know are a danger to our health.
  4. TheMoonIsBlue

    TheMoonIsBlue Senior Member

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    That is one thing I think was better a hundred years + ago.....the food they ate was real food. Half the stuff in the grocery stores today doesn't qualify as food. I try to be careful and buy things that say "GMO Free". I don't wanted genetically modified food in my body. But unless there is a big push for this we will probably all be consuming some GMO products without knowing it.

    It is sad what is happening to farming in the USA. There are great farmers and farms but it is becoming harder and harder for them to raise crops and animals (although I am a vegetarian LOL) the way they want-healthy and natural.
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  5. Esther12

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    I don't think it makes sense to assume that anything genetically modified by modern techniques will be a problem. We've been genetically modifying our foods for a long time, and while modern techniques may make it easier to a problem to rapidly occur, I'm not sure there's good evidence that it has done so yet. I'm sceptical of the instinctive trust some seem to have in GMOs, and some of the things done by the companies promoting them seem problematic and may indicate regulation isn't stringent enough, but I also think this is likely to be a useful technology that's able to bring about real benefits for humanity.

    I don't know anything about Huber, or if this is a big new story, but there have been claims like this in the past which never seemed to pan out. If there is clear cut evidence of harm being caused by GMOs, I'd expect it to be big news.

    I don't know about that... I've been reading some of Mayhew's 'London Labour and the London Poor'. While commercialised farming churns out some pretty dire products compared to more expensive approaches, it's also led to efficiency gains that have allowed the poor of western societies to be able to afford the sorts of diets that the poor of a century ago would be desperate for. It's easy to notice all the problems of current society, and forget about the problems of the past. In China there's been a spate of news stories about food products being illegally diluted with industrial poisons to improve profit margins... that used to be a common problem for us too. In terms of hygiene and trading standards, our food supplies have never been safer.
  6. TheMoonIsBlue

    TheMoonIsBlue Senior Member

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    Ok, Probably True......I guess I was talking about a nostalgic picture I had in my mind where people had their own gardens in their backyards and their own cow in their own barn :)


    Of course if there wasn't prepackaged foods and microwaves half of us on here would probably be dead because we're too sick to cook, let alone go pick tomatoes and milk the cow!!!
  7. Nielk

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    It's almost impossible to avoid the gmo of corn. They make from that corn all kinds of ingredients that if you would read it on a label, you would never recognize it for what it is. The were showing in the documentary aisles and aisles of foods in a supermarket with all kind of food staples that you would find in any household and they say it contains this tainted corn. It's really scary.
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    TheMoonIsBlue Senior Member

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    Yikes....and you know a lot of vitamins and supplements contain corn!

    I haven't watched Food Inc. because I can't stand to watch animals being tortured the way they are in "factory farms"...I assume there is footage of that in the film. I have no problem with people who choose to eat meat but the torture of Factory Farms is inhumane.
  9. Esther12

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    Yeah - I know what you mean, and I do it too. It's easy to imagine some idealised and wholesome past, especially when home grown food is often so much tastier than what can be bought in the shops ("This must be extra good for me").... but when I actually read about different historical settings, I don't ever find myself feeling jealous!
  10. Nielk

    Nielk

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    You should really watch the documentary: Food Inc.
    They show you right on the farms HOW these crops get "modified". The people who are interviewed are scared to show their faces. After watching this, I don't think I can eat anything anymore!
    Of course you don't hear more about it because everyone is afraid to speak up about it. It's the strongest monopoly around .
  11. leela

    leela Slow But Hopeful

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    Here are Smith's references for the Bt toxin:

    1. Vazquez et al, Intragastric and intraperitoneal administration of Cry1Ac protoxin from Bacillus thuringiensis induces systemic and mucosal antibody responses in mice, Life Sciences, 64, no. 21 (1999): 18971912; Vazquez et al, Characterization of the mucosal and systemic immune response induced by Cry1Ac protein from Bacillus thuringiensis HD 73 in mice, Brazilian Journal of Medical and Biological Research 33 (2000): 147155.

    2. Vazquez et al, Bacillus thuringiensis Cry1Ac protoxin is a potent systemic and mucosal adjuvant, Scandanavian Journal of Immunology 49 (1999): 578584. See also Vazquez-Padron et al., 147 (2000b).

    3.EPA Scientific Advisory Panel, Bt Plant-Pesticides Risk and Benefits Assessments, March 12, 2001: 76. Available at this link.

    4. M.A. Noble, P.D. Riben, and G. J. Cook, Microbiological and epidemiological surveillance program to monitor the health effects of Foray 48B BTK spray (Vancouver, B.C.: Ministry of Forests, Province of British Columbi, Sep. 30, 1992).

    5. A. Edamura, MD, Affidavit of the Federal Court of Canada, Trial Division. Dale Edwards and Citizens Against Aerial Spraying vs. Her Majesty the Queen, Represented by the Minister of Agriculture, (May 6, 1993); as reported in Carrie Swadener, Bacillus thuringiensis (B.t.), Journal of Pesticide Reform, 14, no, 3 (Fall 1994).

    6. J. R. Samples, and H. Buettner, Ocular infection caused by a biological insecticide, J. Infectious Dis. 148, no. 3 (1983): 614; as reported in Carrie Swadener, Bacillus thuringiensis (B.t.), Journal of Pesticide Reform 14, no. 3 (Fall 1994)

    7. M. Green, et al., Public health implications of the microbial pesticide Bacillus thuringiensis: An epidemiological study, Oregon, 1985-86, Amer. J. Public Health, 80, no. 7 (1990): 848852.

    8. A. Edamura, MD, Affidavit of the Federal Court of Canada, Trial Division. Dale Edwards and Citizens Against Aerial Spraying vs. Her Majesty the Queen, Represented by the Minister of Agriculture, (May 6, 1993); as reported in Carrie Swadener, Bacillus thuringiensis (B.t.), Journal of Pesticide Reform, 14, no, 3 (Fall 1994).

    9. Carrie Swadener, Bacillus thuringiensis (B.t.), Journal of Pesticide Reform 14, no. 3 (Fall 1994). See also, Health effects of B.t.: Report of surveillance in Oregon, 1985-87. Precautions to minimize your exposure (Salem, OR: Oregon Departmentof Human Resources, Health Division, April 18, 1991); and Material Safety Data Sheet for Foray 48B Flowable Concentrate (Danbury, CT: Novo Nordisk, February, 1991).

    10. Washington State Department of Health, Report of health surveillance activities: Asian gypsy moth control program, (Olympia, WA: Washington State Dept. of Health, 1993).

    11. M. Green, et al., Public health implications of the microbial pesticide Bacillus thuringiensis: An epidemiological study, Oregon, 1985-86, Amer. J. Public Health 80, no. 7(1990): 848852.

    12. C. M. Ignoffo, and C. Garcial, UV-photoinactivation of cells and spores of Bacillus thuringiensis and effects of peroxidase on inactivation, Environmental Entomology 7 (1978): 270272.

    13. BT: An Alternative to Chemical Pesticides, Environmental Protection Division, Ministry of Environment, Government of British Columbia, Canada, link.

    14. See for example, A. Dutton, H. Klein, J. Romeis, and F. Bigler, Uptake of Bt-toxin by herbivores feeding on transgenic maize and consequences for the predator Chrysoperia carnea, Ecological Entomology 27 (2002): 4417; and J. Romeis, A. Dutton, and F. Bigler, Bacillus thuringiensis toxin (Cry1Ab) has no direct effect on larvae of the green lacewing Chrysoperla carnea (Stephens) (Neuroptera: Chrysopidae), Journal of Insect Physiology 50, no. 23 (2004): 175183.

    15. FAO-WHO, Evaluation of Allergenicity of Genetically Modified Foods. Report of a Joint FAO/WHO Expert Consultation on Allergenicity of Foods Derived from Biotechnology, Jan. 2225, 2001; link.

    16. Ashish Gupta et. al., Impact of Bt Cotton on Farmers Health (in Barwani and Dhar District of Madhya Pradesh), Investigation Report, OctDec 2005.

    17. John M. Burns, 13-Week Dietary Subchronic Comparison Study with MON 863 Corn in Rats Preceded by a 1-Week Baseline Food Consumption Determination with PMI Certified Rodent Diet #5002, December 17, 2002, link. See also Stphane Foucart, Controversy Surrounds a GMO, Le Monde, 14 December 2004; and Jeffrey M. Smith, Genetically Modified Corn Study Reveals Health Damage and Cover-up, Spilling the Beans, June 2005, link.

    18. Alberto Finamore, et al., Intestinal and Peripheral Immune Response to MON810 Maize

    19. John M. Burns, 13-Week Dietary Subchronic Comparison Study with MON 863 Corn in Rats Preceded by a 1-Week Baseline Food Consumption Determination with PMI Certified Rodent Diet #5002, December 17, 2002, link.

    20. Nagui H. Fares, Adel K. El-Sayed, Fine Structural Changes in the Ileum of Mice Fed on Endotoxin Treated Potatoes and Transgenic Potatoes, Natural Toxins 6, no. 6 (1998): 219233.

    21. Alberta Velimirov, et al., Biological effects of transgenic maize NK603xMON810 fed in long term reproduction studies in mice, Forschungsberichte der Sektion IV Band 3/2008, November 2008

    22. Jeffrey M. Smith, Genetic Roulette: The Documented Health Risks of Genetically Engineered Foods, Yes! Books, Fairfield, IA USA 2007

    23. Mortality in Sheep Flocks after Grazing on Bt Cotton FieldsWarangal District, Andhra Pradesh Report of the Preliminary Assessment, April 2006, link.
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  12. leela

    leela Slow But Hopeful

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    leela Slow But Hopeful

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    Hi Esther,

    I think the chief difference in modern food modification is that pesticides have been incorporated into the genetics of the plant. This is a not the same as hybridizing for maximum potential or weather resistance, but instead is introducing a toxin into the food chain at a very basic level.

    The other modern development has been to incorporate a genetic material that causes the plant to be resisitant to herbicide, which then allows massive use of the herbicide on the crops. There is much literature on why this is turning out to be not-so-good.
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  14. August59

    August59 Daughters High School Graduation

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    Not sure if it is relevant to this or not. China is having a very severe drought in parts of it's agricultural region, despite trying their weather control equipment to produce rain. Sometime back though the Chinese have bought up almost (approx. 75%) of all the corn production in the US. This does not include what has been subsidized to be turned into "ethanol"

    Even though the US is the largest producer of corn in the world, very little will be available to the US citizens and therefore "quality"!?!? is terrible and price is sky high.
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    Most of the crop of corn contain e-coli. They know about it and don't care.
  16. leela

    leela Slow But Hopeful

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    Free to stream until Sept 21, really informative documentary about GMO:
    http://geneticroulettemovie.com/

    They get into the issues of inflammation/disease, and also the suppression of science, which are also
    pertinent to our community.

    Totally worth the 1.5 hours. People really need to know about this.
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    sensing progress Senior Member

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    Thanks for sharing leela! Will check it out.

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