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Gordon Medical: Metabolomics in CFS Study to be Published August 31

mango

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As of April 2016, the Gordon Medical Research Center completed and submitted for publication the first CFS Metabolomics study, looking at biomarkers in 84 subjects, 43 patients and 43 age and sex matched controls. It is currently finished undergoing peer review prior to publication on August 31, 2016. The statistical strength of the results is very strong, indicating a potential commonality in all CFS patients. We will let you know when the study is actually available.

However, validating the biomarkers for CFS will require more than one cohort of patients. GMA and Dr. Naviaux’s lab have teamed up with Dr. Paul Cheney to complete the second group of patients. Dr. Cheney’s long experience and clinical acumen make his patients probably the best defined group of CFS patients in the world.

If we confirm our findings with Dr. Cheney’s patients, we will finally have a diagnostic test for Chronic Fatigue Syndrome!

See more about the Metabolomics Research.
http://www.gordonmedical.com/unrave...omics-in-cfs-study-to-be-published-august-31/
 

dreampop

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Anyone know about these guys? Never heard of them, or Eric Gordon. But, that's a pretty extraordinary claim, I would be very pleasantly surprised.
 

A.B.

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At what point can we say that ME/CFS metabolomics is trendy?

We've got four different groups doing metabolomics. One from New Zealand whose name escapes me at the moment, the OMF with Davis and Naviaux, Columbia University with Lipkin and Hornig, and now Gordon Medical.

Where did this sudden interest come from?

If these groups all come up with similar results it's going to have a large impact.
 

aimossy

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I think it's a hot area of research but not so sure about it being trendy just for ME/CFS right now. The Australia group in Melbourne have been working on it for a few years and so have Lipkin and Hornig through CFI funding for at least 2 years. I think Davis has made it exciting with what he has shared about it with respect to ME/CFS. But maybe it is seeming trendy with people now talking about it so much. @A.B. You might be thinking of Prof Tate in NZ who is also using metabolomics.
 

halcyon

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We've got four different groups doing metabolomics. One from New Zealand whose name escapes me at the moment, the OMF with Davis and Naviaux, Columbia University with Lipkin and Hornig, and now Gordon Medical.
I'm not sure if there's ongoing work, but Maureen Hanson also reported on a pilot metabolomics study at Invest in ME this year, where they could identify the ME patients with 100% success.
 

Groggy Doggy

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At what point can we say that ME/CFS metabolomics is trendy?

We've got four different groups doing metabolomics. One from New Zealand whose name escapes me at the moment, the OMF with Davis and Naviaux, Columbia University with Lipkin and Hornig, and now Gordon Medical.

Where did this sudden interest come from?

If these groups all come up with similar results it's going to have a large impact.
OMF/Naviaux/Gordon is the same study

http://www.openmedicinefoundation.org/expanded-mecfs-metabolomics-study/
 

Sidereal

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Jill

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Fantastic , have been waiting for this ! Also right on the eve in which my partner us being admitted to hospital. It's possibly a waste of time but I think I'm slowly getting the message thru that ME isn't about fatigue and the treatment of exercise is based on rubbish . I really want to send this guy who is clinical director of medicine at middlemore hospital in Auckland to the next conference . Anyone any idea when the next USA one is and if there's an agenda anywhere. Old Ros Vallings isn't really up to it as far as I'm concerned. She wanted 500$ to come to see Al at home. This guy has come for nothing twice. She can't be bothered with the severe. She just gets all the patients and charges like a specialist but has no specialist rights like hospital privileges . It's a scam as far as I see it
 

Ben H

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It's not the same study. The study with OMF is a replication study of the initial Naviaux/Gordon study due to be published on Aug 31. There is a previous thread on this:

http://forums.phoenixrising.me/inde...nfo-imbeded-in-collaborators-blog-post.44886/

What @Sidereal said.

The reason for the interest and metabolomics being 'trendy' per se is due to the technology itself, and the findings that have already been documented (from the London conference) and the upcoming paper.

Metabolomics can tell us so much, and is on the razor edge of new technology. Combine that with the findings thus far and you have a recipe for interest.

On a side note, it can get slightly confusing due to the amount of researchers and facilities that are working on this. For more info and list of collaborators working with OMF, this thread can help:

http://forums.phoenixrising.me/inde...foundation-official-thread-inc-q-and-a.45652/


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