Discussion in 'The Gut: De Meirleir & Maes; H2S; Leaky Gut' started by albellenfant, Jan 5, 2010.
That view re biofilm treatment is very interesting. Susan u have a Pm
It's been 3 years since this post. Rich stated that this was an unproven hypothesis at the time regarding the role in methylation and he also quoted Dr. Kunin on the use of regular pancreatic digestive enzymes instead of the special (ie more expensive) enzymes specifically for breaking down the biofilm. Has there been any developments on this? I'm asking more about the enzymes than methylation aspect. For the last few years I've been taking the plain old Now Foods Super Enzymes that contain pancreatin (and ox bile extract). Bromelain was also mentioned in this thread although I read something recently about bromelain increasing gut permeability which might not be good for leaky gut.
Thanks for bringing this up Lotus. I also take NOW Foods Super Enzymes, along with NOW pancreatin. I've not thought in terms of taking them to break down biofilm, but I'm happy to know that this might be the case. Less expensive always works for me!
This sounds a bit similar to the "Kelly Cure", which uses pancreatic enzymes to digest cancers in the body. But I believe in order for this to work, the enzymes must be taken on an empty stomach, otherwise they will all be used up digesting food. So if a person were to do this with the specific intent of breaking down biofilms, I'm guessing it might work better if they're taken on an empty stomach.
That makes sense. I'm not so sure I'm ready to break up the biofilm just yet because I don't know what metals could be hiding in there. I take my enzymes with food so I guess they're probably just digesting the food.
Candex was mentioned in this thread I think. I read one or two customer review saying they got better results when they emptied the capsule into water.
DO NOT TAKE NOW FOODS SUPER ENZYMES ON AN EMPTY STOMACH!!! I realize this is an old post but I'm posting this as a warning for anyone who is thinking of trying this. You could burn the bottom of your esophagus like I did and suffer continuous heartburn like pain for months. I tried these years ago and I took them at the end of a meal (the way I sometimes take vegetarian digestive enzymes if I forget to take them earlier) and that's what happened. Now when I take anything that has pepsin or betaine hcl in it (I think it could have been the pancreatin or the ox bile extract that did it though), I take them only in the middle of a meal with protein. If I'm not eating protein, I don't take them. Be very careful. If you want to take enzymes on an empty stomach for candida, you have to take the kinds that are in products such as Candex or Yst Management or Biofilm Defense. Those are fine to take on an empty stomach.
I was having severe GI problems with parasites and I took 2 weeks of albendazole+pyrantel and it cured me, maybe I had giardia and worms?
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