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GCMAF factory closed down in the UK

Discussion in 'GcMAF' started by ukxmrv, Feb 4, 2015.

  1. ukxmrv

    ukxmrv Senior Member

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    http://www.itv.com/news/channel/2015-02-03/guernsey-linked-to-danger-drug/

    "A Guernsey registered company has had its Cambridgeshire based factory closed down after 'serious concerns' about the drugs it produces.

    Importation of the drug GcMaf into the island has also been banned from today.

    GcMaf is a blood product that claims to treat a range of conditions, including cancer, HIV and autism.

    The UK's Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) did an unannounced inspection of the production site in Milton, Cambridgeshire today after concerns from the medicines regulator in Guernsey."
     
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    lansbergen Senior Member

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    Thinktank Senior Member

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    I'd like to know more as to why this all happened.
    Was it big pharma pulling the strings or David Noakes' bold claims as GcMAF being THE cure for cancer?

    I have used the GcMAF from firstimmune and have to say it effectively lowered my nagalase levels.

    I don't believe this is the end of it.
     
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  4. lansbergen

    lansbergen Senior Member

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    It happened because they used starting material that should not be used in drug products.

    The inspectors did what is their duty.
     
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  5. Jammy88

    Jammy88 Senior Member

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    GcMaf is a huge scam. Professor Ruggiero in Italy - who used to claim GcMaf effectiveness - got permanently banned from medical profession due to its unsafe and unethical way of operating in the medical field.
     
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    SB_1108 Senior Member

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    Jammy88 - please elaborate...
     
  7. Kina

    Kina Moderation Team Lead

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    I just learned today after googling this that David Noakes ran against Nigel Farage to be the leader of UKIP - what else can one say except -- hmmmmmmmmmmmmm. :rofl::rofl::rofl:
     
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  8. Daffodil

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    well it isnt a huge scam..it did help many people, including myself
     
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    halcyon Senior Member

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    Wasn't this in the context of cancer treatment though?
     
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    halcyon Senior Member

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    Does anyone know if MAF 878 is a blood product as well? Will this closure affect the availability of that product?
     
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    I have mixed feelings. I like the FirstImmune Oleic, it did lower my nagalase levels. However the way they conducted their research studies was crazy. Basically you email them and say you have CFS and agree to report nagalase and condition. You aren't supervised by a MD except to get the nagalase tests and the MD doesn't specificially report on your condition. Research isn't supposed to be like that. I didn't like their protocol and I'm suspicious that it drags treatment out longer than it needs to. That said, they are very helpful and the product is good.
     
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    barbc56 Senior Member

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    Uh, @Kina

    What are the abbreviations? My mind is fogged.:rolleyes:

    Thanks.

    Barb

    ETA

    United Kingdom Independent Party. Let's see how many I can get before you reply.

    Got David Noakes. Promoter of gmcaf.

    Nigel Farage leader of the UKIP.

    Thanks, Kina! What does it mean?
     
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  14. barbc56

    barbc56 Senior Member

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    I think that fits the definition of a scam. I need to do more research on the others as I also heard it doesn't work and can be harmful.

    Barb
     
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    Looks like I have confused Gcmaf with DHEA

    However, so far it sound dubious to me.

    It's also claimed it cures HIV and Autism, not just cancer.

    I am only finding sites mostly about cancer.

    Barb
     
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    I could not disagree with you more. Many people have been able to function with Chronic Fatigue due to this drug. These guys have done the chronic fatigue community a huge favor over the years. I am very sad to hear this news as well as the news that Professor Ruggiero has been banned from his profession. There are many of us that owe him greatly for his work in the chronic fatigue community. I personally know many people for whom this drug has done miracles. This is very sad news.
     
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    Bright, inventive minds who do not bow for the system get destroyed. It happens over and over again, you really must be naive to believe all the bullshit. Look at how lyme doctors are treated - licenses revoked, financially destroyed and publicly shamed just because they do not follow the standard protocols.

    GcMAF is undoubtingly effective and i'm talking from first hand experience.
     
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    @Thinktank: Prof. Ruggiero said it could cure HIV with GcMaf. Is this a brilliant mind? I personally don't think so.

    I'm not saying GcMaf couldn't work for ME/CFS. We know that ME/CFS could be caused by so many different factors, that in some case it might be helpful. But please don't say it works effectively in saving people with untreatable retroviruses or terminal cancers… Cuz I don't agree with that.
     
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    @Jammy88, I would say he's quite ahead of his time compared to other doctors but i don't like the bold claims either. Did he really say it cures HIV? Do you have a source? I think David Noakes is the one who makes ridiculous claims.

    In some GcMAF is more than helpful, leading to partial remission. I've personally seen huge improvement in autistic kids and someone with MS.

    Where did i say it cures diseases? I said it's an effective treatment.

    I'm still wondering why you think GcMAF is a huge scam, patients and papers report otherwise.
     
  20. barbc56

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    AFAIK, there isn't any science to back the medical claims for GcMAF. Most of the studies about it's medicinal properties have been retracted not only for being poorly designed but also for conflict of interest and in one case forging a signature.

    I am not discounting people who have reported improvement but without some medical validity, how do we know that it was GcMaf that caused this?

    Who knows, maybe it does work, but at this point in time there's not enough evidence to say it does or doesn't work.

    Here are some links I found helpful.

    http:/wetractionwatch.com/2014/07/25/paper-about-widely-touted-but-unapproved-cure-for-cancer-autism-retracted/

    http://scholarlyoa.com/2014/07/24/w...cure-proven-effective-in-a-predatory-journal/

    http://wwddtydty.com/2014/11/gcmaf-superhero-health-problem/

    http://www.anticancerfund.org/therapies/gcmaf

    Barb
     
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