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Freddd protocol 2014 Cliff Notes

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I already take a supplement with some active b12. Would I need to start with the inactive form? It doesn't seem necessary to do that in my case.
 

heyitisjustin

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@wootah88 When I need K+ my heart feels heavy or fast, I might feel restless, a bit breathless, my eyes tend to look 'piggy', somehow too small. When I take K+, the symptoms are relieved almost immediately.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'piggy' eyes. There are days where my eyelids seem to vanish, perhaps collapsing on themselves. Is this a potassium problem?
 

heyitisjustin

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I was wondering if anyone could clarify the amount of time supplements should be taken next to, or apart from one another. My understanding is that:

  • Potassium at least 45mins apart from folate & B12
    • (Potassium interferes with absorption)
  • Folate 30+mins before B12
    • (because B12 absorbs better if taken after folate)
  • B-Complex When?

Also, why is it important to have a B-Complex that doesn't contain B12 or folate?
Vitamin C should also be taken away from Folate. In general supplements take ~45 minutes to absorb. That is why,for example, potassium is taken 45 apart from folate as potassium messes up folate absorption.

I think the B complex without B12/folate is trying to avoid SPECIFIC bad forms of b12 (cyanocobalamin?) and folate (folic acid).
 

ahmo

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I'm not sure what you mean by 'piggy' eyes. There are days where my eyelids seem to vanish, perhaps collapsing on themselves. Is this a potassium problem?
You'll only know by taking some K+ and seeing if the symptom goes away. It's been a long time since I've had this symptom. These days I get something slightly different, which I label squinty eyes, when I need antioxidants. Tracking and identifying symptoms has been core to my healing. It's very individual.
 

picante

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I think the B complex without B12/folate is trying to avoid SPECIFIC bad forms of b12 (cyanocobalamin?) and folate (folic acid).
And some of us have to micro-titrate methylfolate and methylB12, which we can't do if it's in a B-complex.

Also, some of us have to be able to adjust each B vit. independent of the others. I doubt that I'll ever find a B-comp that has the right ratio of all the Bs I need.