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Feel much better when I have a 'normal' virus, and not a 'reactivation'

Discussion in 'Post-Exertional Malaise, Fatigue, and Crashes' started by drob31, Jul 18, 2017.

  1. drob31

    drob31 Senior Member

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    I noticed with my bloodwork that my WBC count is always low, but when I'm sick, it creeps up to being low normal. I seem to feel better when my WBC count is higher, unless it's a EBV reactivation, in which case it's much worse.
     
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    JES Senior Member

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    I share your experience 100%, although I don't have WBC or any other standard blood test abnormalities. I started a thread on it some time ago here. Getting a cold usually means my mental clarity is almost back to normal, basically I don't have any brainfog at all. Too bad that I only have colds once every two or three years or so, as I would choose being mildly sick with a cold any day over the usual symptoms I have. The only other times I achieved anything similar in terms of improvement have been under sleep deprivation or when travelling, but the cold is by far the best remission.
     
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    drob31 Senior Member

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    It seems to me that this conclusively proves that you need to boost immunity. Have you ever tried anything like immunovir?
     
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    JES Senior Member

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    I haven't used immunovir, but I trialed inosine a few years ago, which I think should be quite similar in effect. Back then I reacted badly to it like with any immune stimulant; basically increase of brain fog, anxiety, fatigue, neuropathic pain, etc. The amplitude of all symptoms increased, nothing like as with the flu/cold, so I couldn't tolerate taking these supplements for over a week.

    It could be that I would react differently now, as I read CFS/ME patients after three years with this disease develop a different cytokine profile, so it's possible I would tolerate it better now. The only immune modulator that I've been able to take and still use is LDN.
     
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    ebethc Senior Member

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    how do you know that you have an EBV reactivation? do you test IgM, and find an elevated result?
     
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    ebethc Senior Member

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    I had the same reaction from medicinal mushrooms (cordyceps, reishi, chaga)... I'm just recovering, and am back to my "normal" bad baseline...

    I may try again at an extremely low dose, because I felt better at first
     
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    drob31 Senior Member

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    I was in ER, they did swab test. IgG antibody titers are always high otherwise.
     
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    ebethc Senior Member

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    sorry - I don't understand what the swab test means... they swabbed your throat and found a mono (ebv) culture? (I don't even know if mono or ebv can be swabbed; I know strep can be) .. I thought EBV was dx by titers..
    thanks for clarifying
     
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    drob31 Senior Member

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    Now that I think about it maybe it was saliva? I can't remember.
     
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    hi, just a question relevant to the topic...have u searched whether high IgG antibody titers means that we deal with a reactivation of the virus? Do u know if there is a way to test this somehow?

    I have passed EBV and my IgM antibodies are low-so theoretically there is no reactivation. However, IgG antibodies were high (42,5) which may mean reactivation. No doctor has a clear opinion on that.
     

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