thanks @Learner1 the lyme/mold dr i see has me taking something called "liver lovin" formula. I dont have CMV, I think EBV and HSV-1 are the ones I am having the biggest issue with. we'll see how the byron white A-EB/H6 formula works. I got an email back from stanford, asking me to give the famvir a few more days, that was yesterday am. since i started the email to them on the 6th i stopped the famvir on the 7th , i tried a lower dose a couple days later and the stomach upset starting almost right away then the next day i took it same thing and i noticed the loose stools coming back but they were much lighter in color which isn't good. I wrote back explaining , now we'll see what happens next. maybe valtrex is the next thing to try again. i kinda felt bad that i stopped it on my own, but i was/am relieved that stopping it stopped the diarrhea.