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Fake Folates : Looking for Cyanide?

Discussion in 'Detox: Methylation; B12; Glutathione; Chelation' started by Asklipia, Mar 27, 2013.

  1. Crux

    Crux Senior Member

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    Hi cph13;
    Those are really nutritious vegetables...maybe better in a soup or stew, especially with the recipe that Asklipia describes...looks delicious!

    Of course, I don't know what amount of extra potassium would be best for you, but the upper end of the RDA is 4000-4700 mgs. daily. ( that would be alot of kale!) Personally, I take more than most folks here, so I'm in the high dosing demographic. ( I take 2000-3000 mgs. of potassium daily, in divided doses. I take much of it in the morning, for regularity, usually 500 or more mgs.) But, the amount I take could be too much for others, so I recommend a slow careful titration.

    I find that extra potassium in foods and supplements helps my anxiety and sleep.

    Apologies here, I've wandered off- topic...
     
  2. Little Bluestem

    Little Bluestem Senescent on the Illinois prairie, USA

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    Asklipia What type of lettuce do you use in the stew?
     
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    Asklipia Senior Member

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  4. Freddd

    Freddd Senior Member

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    HI Cph,

    Costco at least has boneless leg of lamb, Australian, at 5.99/lb , delicious. Once a year in the spring a store around here carries lamb ribs which are very tasty. I use sea salt, garlic, thyme and rosemary to season the lamb before roasting. Another dish I like is a lamb stew with barley.
     
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  5. Lotus97

    Lotus97 Senior Member

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    Wow. I wish my supplement regimen was that simple:(
     
  6. cph13

    cph13 Senior Member

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    I managed to get the lamb @2.99lb. I had them butterfly it...Oh am I going to have fun cooking tomorrow, that is, if I eva get outta bed. I was in NYC today from 9am til 7pm. Saw the endo, had chinese (no additives) shopped like nuts and now I plan on being good for a few days. I have no choice. I'm DONE...Hugs C
     
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    Asklipia Senior Member

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    Boneless : We need the bones!!!!!!
     
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  8. cph13

    cph13 Senior Member

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    LOL, I know, I just had them seperated (very cleanly, I may add) I roast them; than use them. It give another depth of flavor Asklipia...same with some roots I add to a v. high oven temp. It takes me 2-3 days to make a hungarian veal paprikash but it sure is worth it. Have a SUNNY,FUNNY Day!
     
  9. cph13

    cph13 Senior Member

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    Yikes, I just lost a whole post to U. AYAYAYAYA.
    OK, I'm still cooking. I am spoiled. My late DH did the shopping and scraping/ peeling of veggies ALWAYS. Actually he always made the beef stew. I trimmed the meat.
    Soooooo, I couldn't keep my hands off the meat while browning it which I did yesterday morning (that's probably why he took over the job). I shopped for the roots/herbs yesterday. I used to make my stew slowly in the oven many years ago. OVEN WON't LITE. Stove top is the difficult way.
    I will add the greens tomorrow....too tired today...that is...IF IT LASTS TIL TOMORROW.
    I'm on famvir...my feet are swelling and also hot. Freddd says, the heat is part of healing. The swelling DK. I read in length about the bain-dervi. I will get something for the toilet tomorrow. I love the idea.
    TODAY, I am using my foot bath with ice cubes and cold water..to help the swelling. Brilliant idea ....I thought. I was inspired by the Bain-Derif post.
    Thanks again Asklipedia for the recipe and the info on Bain-Derif. Have a great w/e everyone.
     
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    cph13 Senior Member

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    ==============I love too cook. It is so rewarding. What a meal this is. I'm licking the plate for sure. Again, THANK YOU for keeping an eye out for "us" Crux. Have a great week. Hugs C
     
  11. Crux

    Crux Senior Member

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    cph13;

    Hi ;
    I've gotten into this situation many times now. Folate is very powerful, and finding out own correct dosage is difficult, because there's a lag time before it takes full effect. I would prefer to get it from diet alone, but like B12, I don't absorb it so well. ( But still, I don't need as high a dosage as other folks. However, I need more than most of the B12.) I've been on a 'seesaw', lately. It's getting better, I hope it does for you too!

    Potassium is available in bulk powder. I take NOW brand potassium gluconate. You use measuring spoons,and dilute it with water. I think it's easier than capsules.

    Magnesium oxide may be harder to absorb than the other types. ( chelates) Magnesium chloride is OK if stomach acid is low, but could burn if you don't need extra chloride. ( Folks here tend to take Mg.Glycinate, Gluconate, Taurate, or Threonate.)

    I haven't tried the Life Extension brand, or the Klaire brand. ( Please let us know what you think.Use the symptoms list.) I'm sticking with the Enzymatic Therapy brand because it is the most effective I've tried, but I hope it's not the only one.

    I'm beginning to love cooking too, now that I'm more used to cooking from scratch, and avoiding the fortified, readymade, fake folate junk.

    Hugs to you too!
     
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    cph13 Senior Member

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    Crux have a great week....Sunshine and healing C
     
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  13. Crux

    Crux Senior Member

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    Hi C; Same to you, but more of it!
    About the dosage of MeCbl I'm taking-- I'm about 5-7mg. daily, still working on it.
    About the dosage of AdoCbl-- I've stopped for now until I stabilize the MeCbl. ( I'm trying to practice using these abbreviations that Freddd uses, and that we see in the reports.)
    ( I've been able to add Folate again, 100mcg. daily now. I'll increase slowly, but I don't think I'll need high dosages. 400-600 mcg. used to be good in my case.)

    That's great news about the mag. chloride!

    Thanks for finding Freddd's most recent symptoms list, it's a good one. ( you don't have to have every symptom, but even a few may indicate B12 deficiency.)

    I'm a foodie too, we rarely go out, it's hard to trust. When we do go out, I just 'Bless it twice'.

    BBFN
     
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    cph13 Senior Member

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    +++++yes, blessing it is a good thing LOL
    what does your closing BBFN mean????

    I am v. grateful for all that Freddd shares. I am also grateful that people just jump in and help. This is a wonderful site with some AMAZING people. Be well XO C
     
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    Crux Senior Member

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    BBFN is an acronym for, " Bye Bye For Now".
    I thought it was what "Tigger" said in "Winnie the Pooh", but I looked it up, and apparently, Tigger would say, TTFN, "Ta Ta For Now".
    I prefer BBFN. It makes me smile.
     
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  16. Lotus97

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    According to Wikipedia, domesticated almonds don't have cyanide
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almond#Origin_and_history
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almond#Sweet_and_bitter_almonds
     
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  17. alex3619

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    Just a comment on the "B17" Laetrile cure for cancer: it has been thoroughly debunked again and again. What convinced me was an Israeli claim which showed it was a miracle cure. They "cured" a whole lot of patients. It was much publicized. A year later a (UK?) journalist went to Israel for a follow up story. He (?) got a story alright. He tracked down every single patient. All dead. Of cancer.

    Almonds and cashews are processed, stored or bred to eliminate cyanide. However wild cashews can kill you ... don't ever eat straight from a cashew tree, at least any of the original varieties.

    A lot of these foods containing laetrile have other properties. They are extremely good nutition. So eating the food might indeed help with many things, even cancer.
     
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    physicsstudent13 Senior Member

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    I unfortunately was led into smoking by friends and have high cyanide levels. So hydroxocobalamin can increase my oxygen and lower cyanide or maybe rhodanese is even better? I'd like to get injections but I only have these wafers that I bought
     
  19. cph13

    cph13 Senior Member

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    WARNING A DIATRIBE:
    HELLO PRising enthusiast's.

    I found this post in my trash folder n re-read the entire thing. I wanted 2 bump it up for other newbies 2 C.
    @Asklipia, @Crux, @Freddd, @alex3619 @caledonia et all that posted here or have helped me along the way... Too many too remrmber.

    I've been not around that much because I fried my laptop n can't afford another, I thought the phone wud do it all. Doing this stuff on the galaxy phone is a challenge. Old eyes, big fingers u get it; I'm CHALLENGED!!!!!

    So, the lamb stew in this post written a few years ago came out unbelievable. Froze it, made a huge pot. Now, Meat has gotten so expensive. No lamb this Easter! However, I finally found 3 organic markets I can get to with antibiotic-free meat. Yes expensive but I'm back on the lamb stew bandwagon.
    Below:
    An update on my issues n what I've accomplished in 2 years n learned:
    My health is ehhhh. Still up n down. Today's a good day. Summer is always better.

    I've suffered with what can b either gallbladder or pancreatitis. Relentless pain and the big D. 3 attacks in 3 weeks. Me n THE LOO HAVE BECOME GREAT FRIENDS. I found out shaved ginger boiled in water takes care of the pain in the gut. no need for Bella Donna.

    My magnificent ID Dr. In NY found I lack pancreatic enzymes n I am homozy for 1298C yup ++ on that baby. This is ????.

    I think more research is needed on this ++ baby. I don't think enuf is out there on the web, conflicting...or....IS IT ME???? I've never had 23 n me again $$$$ n fear. More confusion. I emulate anyone that has done it n can follow its results w/o blowing their brains out.

    So thank u all for the folate info. guys. I have 2 go to I.D. DR. for analysis my stool test (CDSA). I have results here but ???? what all this means neither does ID DR.

    I have fat in stool (LCFA IS HIGH N TOTAL FECAL FAT) so that's enzymes, I think but which ones. Dr gave me "gluten jest" but worsening if constipation made me stop.
    Lactbocilucus n basilicus species r low in CDSA. I have s. Boulardi but again bowl issues. I try Getting it thru yogurt now.
    On the scfa distribution acetate is thru the roof but no one knows what that means, including Dr.. She's new to managing health naturally/holistically. I love her so I'm patient n will learn with her. UNLESS..someone here has some thoughts..

    I will reintroduce veggies thru lamb stew n veg. with Folates from the organic farmers market starting w swiss chard. The veggies were so fresh i may post pics next week. Along with everything for the stew (price prohibitive stew). I will take extra folate JIC. When I do this as @Freddd suggestion sometime ago.

    B12 ISSUES:
    I've settled with 2 mg of MeCbl n 1600-2400mcg folate. No need for potassium @cruz got me on the right track with that. I was taking 550mg n stopped. Just REINTRODUCED it again.
    As for the Cblms. I did the trial 1/2 hr. 1,000 MCG of MeCbl for 6 hrs. n felt nothing. I don't know if I may be MeCbl saturated???? OR ITS NOT GETTING into CNS. Oh I DID NOT SLEEP FOR about 2 DAYS. What does that mean????

    I managed 2 get some b12 oil. I c no difference from 2000mcg enzymatic, EVEN WITH 1,000MCG increase that is in the shot of oil. I thought oil wud be the kick I needed. What a disappointment n waste of money.

    Still need 2 trial AdCbl SOURCE Naturals with the 6 hr satuation test for CNS.

    AdCbl oil really did nothing either. I will give that another test.

    SLEEP:
    neither b12 or folate bother me at the 2+2 dosage even if I take an extra folate before bed.

    DIPHENIHYDRAMIN or ANY ANTI- histamines cause deterioration of my brain. ANTI-CHOLINERGETICS are not good for me. I spent all last summer going 2 neuros. I had a 5 hour evaluation and testing with cubes, rectangles etc. I have no dementia, pre park. Alz. Bottom line PA said
    " although u r mixing types up u r taking anti-cholinergerics" which effect your brain function.
    I stopped them all n now for sleep i am still on .75 of klonepin for muscle spasms, tyrosine in a.m. tryptophan in late afternoon.
    BEDTIME:
    5-htp ENTERIC coated, 5- htp sublingual (+more if I wake during the night) jujube fruit herb, calcium, n mag. Chloride or glycinate. I sleep about 5-6 he's. Not great but better.
    I was taking 1 gram of yucca. After 60 days I end up with the gallbladder/ pancreas attack n stopped that. I may revisit that. Now I have glycine to add but I don't know how much. I'm chillin waiting for my lamb n veggies for next week.
    I DO TAKE 5mg. Doxepine once in awhile when I feel my sleep Is not enough.

    So, to all my Compadre's here in the quest to heal THANK YOU for you endless research, trails, and sharing. I have NO chemistry so, much of this is challenging for me. My brain is not perfect so that is challenging.

    Your warm hearts that are full of empathy, caring, concern is the only thing I can hang my hat on . I pray u never get tired of sharing. BLESSINGS to all,
    Happy healing with prayers for all. XO, cph13
    Ps- if I haven't mention u by name forgive me n my brain
    Love n hugs
     
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