Brenda - Thanks Hi Brenda, Hi All, Brenda, I want to thank you for your post. I found it to be quite interesting and pleasant to read. I also appreciated your apology and fresh new tone. And BTW, I did not get the impression your comments about the RCC were meant to denigrate. Just thought you were making a point (without malice). Regarding healing: I probably have a little different take on healing than most, and might just share a couple thoughts here. First, I don't believe God (or Spirit or the Universe, etc.) would heal anybody unless it was in their highest spiritual interests to do so. For example, what if a person flaunted many principles of diet and nutrition for a long period of time, and this eventually lead to some serious health problems? If God were to step in and heal this person, could it perhaps deprive this person of the realization that he/she needed to improve their diet in order to improve their health situation? And could a healing perhaps set them back spiritually? Healing is such a complex subject, but to give just another example. What if a person was going through life with a little too much arrogance and not enough humility. (I can think of a few doctors that might fit this bill LOL). Since faltering health can sometimes be a catalyst for humility, might there not be a place in the "grand scheme of things" to having such a person deal with some health challenges? I've noticed that a lot of people think that prayer directed toward healing health conditions is always in the best interests of that person. Or perhaps praying that a person live and not die, is always in accordance with the Divine plan. It always puzzles me that people can feel so confident about these types of things. Shouldn't we leave this to God who always knows what's in somebody's best spiritual interests? Just to mention, some of my thoughts above are not in any manner meant to address any previous comments you or anybody else has made. (I don't remember what has all been said here :Retro smile. Just thought I'd comment on some of the reservations I have about prayer and how I feel it is sometimes misused. Thanks again for your post. Hope you're doing well today. Regards, Wayne ETA I do believe that prayer vigils or prayer groups can affect a person, and perhaps heal them. But I feel there are many different levels of healing, and unless one gets a deep spiritual healing (which I doubt can be facilitated by a prayer group), I would think that it may not necessarily be permanent.