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Exercise & ME/CFS event at Bristol Watershed.

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS Discussion' started by justy, Apr 11, 2014.

  1. justy

    justy Senior Member

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    I haven't seen this anywhere - not sure if this is the right place to post it

    From February 2014, includes a series of video presentations by Mark Van Ness, Nigel Speight and Erina Bowman after a showing of a short version of 'voices from the shadows'

    http://voicesfromtheshadowsfilm.co.uk/exercise-mecfs-event/
     
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    justy Senior Member

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    Just watching Mark Van Ness's talk - its really clear and informative on exercise testing (pacific fatigue lab).
    I like the term Post Exertional Amplification - PEA- that they have come up with to discuss not just feeling bad after exercise but feeling worse over a period of up to 7 days, with in fact some symptoms worsening the further away you get from the exercise test.

    Really great stuff! Now how to force everyone in the world to watch this...

    sorry I cant work out how to put the video directly on here - tried a few things, but cant work it out - can anyone do this?
     
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  4. Countrygirl

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    I haven't seen these posted on PR, so apologies if I have duplicated a post.

    It is the videos of the talks by Prof VanNess, Dr Speight and E. Bowman at Bristol, UK on February 5th 2014, following a showing of Voices from the Shadows.

    Enjoy!



    http://voicesfromtheshadowsfilm.co.uk/exercise-mecfs-event/





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  5. justy

    justy Senior Member

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    Next talk of the day - Nigel Speight
     
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  7. lnester7

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    If we make a campaign to bring machine and train personal to all excellence centers for ME, we will move forward much faster.
     
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    SOC Senior Member

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    What excellence centers for ME? o_O
     
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    The "specialist" ME clinics in places like the UK and the Netherlands where people are prescribed CBT brainwashing to ignore worsening symptoms and engage in harmful aerobic exercise therapies? They could do with this machine, although as the speaker pointed out, these machines are common equipment. It's the people who know how to use them correctly in ME that are uncommon. :woot:
     
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    justy Senior Member

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    the final video - with thanks to @Sidereal for teaching me how to embed them here

     
  11. peggy-sue

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    The exact definition of a "Centre of Excellence" is the number of qualified folk employed by the centre.

    I don't know what the number is, but once it has been reached, it becomes a "Centre of Excellence".

    Far from what the name suggests, it is no indication of quality or of excellence, just the number of staff.
     
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    As if those centers would be willing to do CPET testing even if the equipment and staff was donated. :rolleyes: Actual data about the reality of exercise in ME/CFS would destroy their belief-based system, and they wouldn't have that. Sheesh.
     
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