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EPA/DHA ratio?

leaves

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So I have been taking a high EPA fish oil the last 2 weeks and I notice I am more tired than usual. What are your experiences? Should I opt for DHA instead?
 

leaves

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Hey SOC :)
Yes that is a very good point! Actually I was feeling very hypoglycemic too, and my OI was worse too, so it is possible that that is also related then? Hmm too bad, this was supposed to WORK ! :-\
Would a lower dose be good or just not take it at all?
I have such dry eyes and this is the only thing I know that helps with it. The GLA increases seizures so thats out.
 

TheMoonIsBlue

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Hi Leaves,

You may want to try different brands which contain different kinds of fish to see if that makes a difference. I've tried some brands over the years and some of them made me seriously exhausted within hours of ingestion. They were all quality brands so I think maybe 1. The different type of fish they use may make a difference -and- 2. Some fish oils are sitting on the shelves or in capsules for years before you take them, so could be rancid.

If I take too much it does make be bruise easily also.

Don't know if you have tried Salmon only fish oil. I also think Barlean's is a great brand because they are FRESHEST. Date the oil was bottled is stamped right on the bottle.

I have terrible dry eyes also!
 

FunkOdyssey

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DHA and EPA have very different effects on the HPA axis. DHA is effectively neutral, while EPA suppresses HPA output (cortisol). You may very well find that a high DHA (like jarrow max DHA) or pure DHA oil does not have the same effect of making you feel tired -- many people have noticed this on another forum I frequent.

If you want to get into the nitty gritty of this, have a look at this thread: http://www.mindandmuscle.net/forum/35557-fish-oil-hpa
 

leaves

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Interesting all; thanks!! Especially the EPA and DHA axis stuff, Pokerplayer did you try the jarrow DHA supplement, i.e. do you feel you need EPA at all?
 

PokerPlayer

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Hey Leaves,

I did try a dha only supplement, I tried taking higher dha than epa and it made me feel terrible cognitively, with brain fog and depression.

I definitely need epa more than dha. Just too much epa is bad, and too much dha is bad!

I go with 1320mg epa per day and 880mg dha per day. I take 1/2 of my fish oils with breakfast and 1/2 with dinner. Splitting the dosaging into 2 times per day helps a ton.
 

leaves

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Hmm so I guess it is trial and error then.. Kind of convoluted this multidimensional optimization, I am more the binary type :)