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Discussion in 'Other Health News and Research' started by hanchuchu, Nov 3, 2009.

  1. flybro

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    Sorry things aren't improving for you, altho its good to know yr still keeping us informed.

    I'm glad the anxiety has calmed down, whichever way things go for you I hope you can at least find a comfortable place to be.
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    I have not been following this thread as it is very long. However, I remember the first day hanchuchu contacted this forum and I think it is wonderful that the members here have been so supportive. Why couldn't there be a mystery illness in China? One that the government does not want to address and might even try to cover up? Isn 't this the same thing that has been going on with regard to CFS for 25 years! Yes, I think the new poster should have been much more gentle and it irritated me as well. Hanchuchu, I am so sorry you are not doing well and wish there was something more this forum could do to help you. I wish you the best. Take care,

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    Good to see you're still alive Hanchuchu. Thanks for keeping us posted. Prayers to you.

    starry
  4. hanchuchu

    hanchuchu Senior Member

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    I don't think I will die soon, at least I can survive for another two years.

    I believe UCSF must have reached some agreement with the Chinese CDC for the potentical study, but I don't trust the CDC and they will never give the blood to UCSF.

    One professor in Peking University (the best in China) has denied the CDC's comment and said that he tried to study this in cooperation with Standford University, but he was stopped, due to pressure.

    One professor in Hong Kong University said the infected did have contracted something and he will seek the assistance from Chinese CDC. The funny thing is the CDC concluded we are "fear of aids", and how could they offer assistance to this professor?!

    All the work CDC has done is to silence us and stop others from studying the virus...They don't care the life and death of us...

    I don't post as often as previously is because I need to take more time to get rest and have a more clean mind instead of full of different info in my brain.
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    flybro Senior Member

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    Best wishes, softest cuddles and tender love to you.
  6. justinreilly

    justinreilly Stop the IoM & P2P! Adopt CCC!

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    Sound familiar?

    Hanchuchu say relax

    Well, we don't know for sure if a new retrovirus can't be passed by saliva, as Prof. John Coffin said at the last CFSAC meeting. A few retroviruses and retrovirus-like viruses have been associated with ME; retroviral causation makes a lot of theoretical sense and at least some cases have appeared in clusters and are thus passed by saliva [if caused by a virus], so it's a possibility.
  7. hanchuchu

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    Maruo,

    Sorry to hear you are infected. I don't think you are the first one in Japan. Japanese usually visited prostitutes in China during their trip to China. I am doing my best to save all the people, tirelessly contact research centers. I don't count on the government at all.

    The only way out for you is that you should visit the best lab in Japan and tell what happened in China. The virus is of a crazy infectious nature. So take measures to protect your family and won't share dinner with them.

    We are fighting hard, but without any real response from the authority and the research centers.

    Write me email if you want to contact me.
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    Maruo

    I also have very similar symptoms to you and Han, which may be from the same virus or pathogen. It seems that this virus is infecting people all over the world.

    What we have discovered is that many of the symptoms can be treated with supplements that reduce brain inflammation.

    This virus seems to create high states of inflammation - and in some ways, the inflammation is worse than the virus.

    The recommended supplements to reduce brain inflammation are:

    Alpha lipoic acid α-リポ酸 500 mg
    Curcumin クルクミン 1000 mg
    Propolis プロポリス 1000 mg

    These are all very safe, natural supplements, and are available in vitamin stores. You should take the stated doses 2 to 3 times each day, with food.

    These supplements will start to work within 2 days. You will notice that when your brain inflammation is lowered, you feel much better mentally: the anxiety will disappear, and the depression / anhedonia will slowly improve, and your energy levels may improve.

    This treatment will not eliminate the virus, but it will make you feel much better.



    If you can find the time, it would be a good idea to start a blog about this virus in the Japanese language, so that there is a greater awareness of this virus in your country. You have described the symptoms very accurately and very well, so I think you would be good at writing a short, one-page blog. The more we can make people aware of this virus, the more seriously it will be taken by government authorities.

    In English this virus is often called the New HIV/AIDS-Like Virus China.


    We are in the process of setting up a new web site for this New HIV/AIDS-Like Virus China.

    My own blog is here (though I am not 100% certain that my own virus is the same as the Chinese virus).

    Hip
  9. Hip

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    Hi Maruo

    If you treat the severe anxiety, anhedonia (loss of pleasure) and depression, the illness is much easier to bear.


    As I said, I believe anxiety, depression, etc results from the brain inflammation (caused by the infection).

    Taking curcumin 1000 mg, alpha lipoic acid 500 mg and propolis 1000 mg twice daily with food can dramatically reduce brain inflammation. For more information on the link between brain inflammation and anxiety / depression, see here: Sickness Syndrome. More info in Sickness Syndrome is found here: www.sicksyndrome.com



    You can also treat anxiety with SSRI drugs from your doctor. But be careful with SSRI drugs, as occasionally SSRIs can increase suicidal thoughts.

    There are also many safe natural anxiety treatments:

    The natural anti-anxiety supplements I found useful are: inositol (10 to 15 grams daily), vitamin B1 (100 mg), vitamin B6 (50 mg), vitamin B5 (1 gram), L-tyrosine (500 mg); taurine (1000 mg), L-carnitine (500 mg), picamilon (100 mg), arginine pyroglutamate (2 grams -this one is very good), theanine (200 mg).

    Some anti-anxiety herbs include: ashwagandha, Bacopa monniera, chamomile (especially the apigenin extract of chamomile), lavender, passionflower.

    Holy basil can dramatically improve anxiety in some people. Holy basil lowers cortisol (high cortisol is another cause of states), and holy basil also lowers brain inflammation even more.

    The antihistamines cetirizine and loratadine will reduce anxiety symptoms. Dose is 10 mg daily.



    But first try the anti-inflammatory treatment, as this will probably be the most effective.
  10. maruo

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    Hip,

    Thank you for a quick answer.
    I will try them.
    But I think that it approaches by the death. Dizziness and the convulsion are cruel now.

    from maruo
  11. hanchuchu

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    Hi, sorry for the late reply. I don't know how many people died from this disease, because it was not admitted by the authority and no statistics is collected. To be honest, you need to clam down for a while. The anxiety will kill you as well.

    Here are some things you need to do:

    1. take medicine to supress the inflammation and anxiety

    2. take medicine which helps blood circulation

    3. email or phone research centers and tell them what happened in china and you may have contracted the same virus. I have emails with several scientists, if the research centers in Japan need these email exchanges, let me know.

    4. blog it and find some other people who may get infected as well. I don't think you are the first one. If you can use facebook, please use it to tell other people the situation in China.
    Send emails to me if you get some feedbacks from some labs or scientists.

    You don't have to worry you will die soon. After one year, you will feel much better. Some syptoms of mine are improved, some are still there. But I start to feel much better when I get rid of anxiety. Just learn to be at peace with it. I know exactly what you are feeling now.

    Hip, please also use facebook to circulate this news as well since you have access to the websit. Unfortunately, in China, it was blocked.
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    Hanchuchu, you said a few days ago in your post that "My skin has become kind of dark"......

    I am wondering if you have ever been tested for Addison's Disease. Darkening skin, extreme fatigue back pain etc are prime symptoms of Addison's Disease (adrenal insufficiency) and it does cause death.

    Please do some research on this disease and get tested if you have not been tested already!
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    Addison's Disease is a very good suggestion and diagnosis Francelle - many thanks.

    Addison's Disease is a condition of low cortisol, often due to damaged adrenals glands (which produce the hormone cortisol). Many infectious agents can damage the adrenals glands, including:

    Mycobacteria (Mycobacterium avium intracellulare, Mycobacterium tuberculosis),
    Bacteria (Pseudomonas aeruginosa, Group A Streptococcus, Haemophilus influenzae, Pasteurella multocida),
    Viruses (cytomegalovirus),
    Fungii (Pneumocyslis carinii, Histoplasma capsulatum).

    See here for more info.

    So perhaps this mystery HIV-like virus is attacking the adrenals glands and causing low cortisol??

    Low cortisol levels can cause many mental symptoms: irritability, less tolerance of people (quick to anger), easily frustrated, increased fears, constant high anxiety, emotionally hypersensitivity, poor memory, poor memory retrieval, and depression. These are all common symptoms caused by this mystery HIV-like virus.

    Low cortisol levels are often found in chronic fatigue syndrome patients.

    Low cortisol causes increased inflammatory processes in the whole body - and constant inflammation is a common symptom of this mystery HIV-like virus.

    Low cortisol can also cause: cold hands and feet, muscle weakness, muscle pain, joint pain, fatigue, loss of appetite, weight loss, diarrhea.

    "Another major symptom associated with low adrenal cortisol levels is pigmentation changes in the skin. Patches of dark skin, which can mimic tanning, can develop anywhere on the body. A clue to this dark pigmentation is that the dark patches occur in places not exposed to sunlight."

    More info on low cortisol symptoms: Symptoms of low cortisol
    Eighteen Overlooked Symptoms of Adrenal Fatigue



    Adrenal gland damage can also lead to low aldosterone. Low aldosterone hormone can cause hearing loss, frequent urination, sweating, a feeling of thirst, craving for salt.


    You can test your cortisol levels with a Cortisol / DHEA Saliva Test.

    Very low dose (5mg) hydrocortisone tablets can be used to increase cortisol levels, but his needs to be done via your doctor.
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    thanks for the advice

    Hi, I don't think it is addison's disease, but will get it tested later.

    Thanks for the advice, anyway.

    I don't think the Chinese infected can make any progress, most of them are coward. Only several people dare to fight against the PRC CDC.

    I think I will leave them alone. I will go to Hong Kong for further test.
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    Hi hanchuchu,

    I am not sure if this is linked to what is happening in China and Japan but it mentions using an experimental bone marrow transplant using stem cells to treat a woman in Australia who was found to be suffering from a new disease which is previously unknown, and as yet unnamed, condition in which her immune system's signalling processes were not working as they should.
    They haven't got a name for it other than 'T-cell signalling defect'

    Aussie doctors identify new disease
    http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/aussie-doctors-identify-new-disease-20100518-v9mx.html
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    That's fascinating Rosemary. I wonder if that has implications for us. She's lucky she had a sister willing to do a bone marrow transplant.
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    I can relate. I'm a walking difficulty too. That is a great way to describe us.
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    Hi, Maruo.

    I think you need to put me in contact with the scientist you visited. Possibly I can help you to persuade them to take your blood for research. In addition, I have many materials for their reference.

    No matter how hard you are experiencing now, you need to calm down. As I said, anxiety will cause many problems for you and taking it easy will help you health condition.

    Please check your CD4 and CD8 and liver function on a regular basis.

    I don't understand how the researcher is so reluctant to do the research. HKU has admitted it is a real disease, but they have not put the study into action. Things are complicated.

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