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Emergency, Please Help

Discussion in 'Detox: Methylation; B12; Glutathione; Chelation' started by joejack102, Oct 20, 2017.

  1. Gondwanaland

    Gondwanaland Senior Member

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    I suppose - not sure - it could have depleted B2 & B3
     
  2. joejack102

    joejack102

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    Here’s the thing: nothing that has been proposed so far can explain why as early as 13 years old I was 1,000x’s sensitive to medicines/herbs, why CDP Choline reversed that at age 23, and how to reverse it. I mean the idea that a basic vitamin found in hundreds of foods hat I already eat would reverse this is not realistic. Can somebody help me find what exactly CDP Choline does and how to possibly reverse it.
     
  3. Gondwanaland

    Gondwanaland Senior Member

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    You should know the difference between dietary and therapeutic doses.

    ETA you must find a functional practitioner in your area who is experienced in prescribing supplemental vitamins.
     
    Last edited: Nov 17, 2017
  4. joejack102

    joejack102

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    Well, to all those who have participated in this discussion so far, thank you. I still have not found any relief after all I have tried, and I have extensively tried several of the things that were mentioned on this threat so far to not avail. I cannot stress how serious of a problem this is and how bad I have felt for several months now.
    I've attached a chart which might make more sense:

    (I'm not 100% sure which FORM of Choline caused this issue since I used Choline Bitartrate and CDP Choline around the same time.)

    I haven't been able to work in almost 4 months, and I'm about to lose my job and insurance if I cannot find relief.
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  5. Tunguska

    Tunguska Senior Member

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    @joejack102 Sorry I'm under enough pressure/struggling that I can't follow forums anymore. To have problems from uridine you'd have to get high enough bloods levels to affect the brain in a negative manner, such that [less likely when not taken as sublingual UMP]. With CDP-choline you have to take a significant oral dose at once: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10974208

    It affects everything from acetylcholine, dopamine and GABA receptors and densities. It has a role in metabolism through hypothalamus only recognized since last year: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/03/170317131617.htm (http://science.sciencemag.org/content/355/6330/eaaf5375) I believe I even got negative effects from sublingual UMP myself 3 years ago, but I still don't know how you'd go about fixing it. If I did I would tell you.

    [Sorry about the situation with employment, I know how that goes far too well]
     
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  6. tooth

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    @Gondwanaland why would it be prudent to avoid Magnesium Glycinate?
     

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