http://www.drlam.com/adrenalfatiguecenter/adrenalrecovery.asp Theres seems to be some good info on his site and needs to be read several times i think to get it. He doesnt seem to jump past the gun for the 'sexy' things like hormones and adrenal extracts etc even weary of adadptogenic herbs, all seem to have a time and a place but seems big on using vitamin b5 in 500mg doses plus of vitamin c. It seems the worse your adrenals are the worse your reactions are to the sexy treatments and better to use B5 and vit c and slowly build up and later as in months ad adrenal extracts for a short course and maybe adaptogens for 6 week courses. I havent seen phophatidyl sedrine mentioned for high night time cortisol , which im finding good at the moment. HIs recovery journey seems to be a very up and down treatment of crashes and recovery cycles and during these treatment intake has to be adjusted etc to suit the conditions. It seems that adrenal hormones will be the icing on the cake, in the way this treatment works. Outside of chronic cmv reactivating which i no have settled, work is my nexrt big stress ,mainly for the long and strange hours worked, mmmm what to do, anyone want to volunteer to pay all my bills. Have a read of hid site and bring some discussion back or good pointers we have missed. cheers!!!