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Dr. Teitlebaum and WPI

Discussion in 'Latest ME/CFS Research' started by ndrmda, Nov 27, 2009.

  1. Cort

    Cort Phoenix Rising Founder

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    It just shows how complicated it all is doesn't it? RNase L was (is?) a big thing.

    Several studies suggested that RNase L fragmentation was commonly found in ME/CFS and, importantly, they were able to correlate symptom severity with the degree of fragmentation: it seemed to be a key part of this disease. (Some later studies have not been so successful, however.)

    But here we find - at least according to this group - that RNase L is not correlated with XMRV diagnosis. How could this be?; how is it that a common finding in Dr. Peterson's set of patients (RNase L) - does not correlate with another common finding in his set of patients (XMRV)? There are apparently a significant # of patients with RNase L problems without XMRV and vice versa.

    Then there are cytokines? the Science paper said as I remember that the patients in the study had high IL-8 levels. Dr. Klimas just did a study showing ME/CFS patients had LOW Il-8 levels. It's just very complex!

    I'm ready for anything....:confused:
     
  2. Eric Johnson from I&I

    Eric Johnson from I&I Senior Member

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    How is this the news that's "not really the 'bad' news." This is no news, unless there are credible sources for Mikovits intending to prove that, which I think is unlikely unless she has reasons she hasnt divulged. At face value, the DeFreitas virus is in a whole different class of retroviruses, which is plain as day, but it is conceivable that someone could figure out what errors DeFreitas made, if any. And thus re-interpret in a different way those of her assays which that someone believes are valid.

    I've seen a million patients talking about how XMRV must be the DeFreitas virus. They were wrong. Some reporter misunderstood something and said 20% of the subjects had cancer, which was believed by another researcher and mention in his comments on the Mikovits paper. Reporters get stuff wrong a lot.
     
  3. lisaxxx

    lisaxxx Guest

    Teitelbaum

    Quote "Teitelbaum himself seems to report everything in a way that is designed to glorify himself and sell supplements"

    Do tell

    He has claimed a Success Rate of something like 90% for CURING people with CFS
    Yet after like 10 years of this claim I have never found even one person CURED by him
    He also runs a series of Fibro-Fatigue centers which also promise quite a lot - but again I cannot locate anyone actually CURED at one of these centers
    Not saying they don't exist.....
    But if they do they are very very hard to find
     

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