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I'd go a bit further, and say that they need the full tick experience. It's quite possible that chronic patients are successfully treated for Lyme, while undetected co-infections go untreated and continue to cause problems.Similarly, those medical professionals who think there is no such thing as chronic Lyme disease need to prove their claims, and they can do this by injecting themselves with Borrelia bacteria.
This would obviously do nothing to convince people that chronic Lyme doesn't exist just like all those who are safely vaccinated does nothing for those who are convinced vaccinations can cause autism.In medical science, you need to put your money where your mouth is.
When Dr Barry Marshall came up with his theory that the bacterium Helicobacter pylori was the cause of stomach ulcers, he was prepared to ingest these bacteria to prove his ideas, and in doing so, was able to demonstrate that these bacteria do indeed cause ulcers.
Similarly, those medical professionals who think there is no such thing as chronic Lyme disease need to prove their claims, and they can do this by injecting themselves with Borrelia bacteria. Since these medical professionals believe that only acute Lyme disease exists, they have nothing to worry about, because if they are right, they will only suffer a short course of illness, acute Lyme disease, but will suffer no chronic problems after the acute illness clears up.
However, if they are wrong, and some do develop chronic Lyme disease after injecting themselves with Borrelia, although they will have screwed their lives up, these medical professionals will have done something very useful, which is to conclusively demonstrate that chronic Lyme disease exists.
So here is a challenge to all those who don't believe in chronic Lyme: get out a syringe and inject some Borrelia. Put your money where your mouth is.
Similarly, those medical professionals who think there is no such thing as chronic Lyme disease need to prove their claims,
Interesting. Do you have a link to this study? I couldn´t find it.It's about whether the spirochete survives treatment, and that has been demonstrated as recently as six months ago when Kim Lewis of Northeastern and Zheng of Johns Hopkins proved persisters existed. In fact, they are working on a protocol to deal with persisters.
btw, no such thing as post Lyme syndrome. The CDC does believe there is such a critter as Post Treatment Lyme Disease Syndrome, but that critter doesn't have any teeth
In vitro, B. burgdorferi