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Dr Oz colon polyps raises question of "spontaneous disease" without cause

Discussion in 'Other Health News and Research' started by ggingues, Sep 6, 2010.

  1. ggingues

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    by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, NaturalNews Editor

    (NaturalNews) Dr Oz was recently found to have a precancerous colon polyp which was surgically removed. Following this experience, he appears to be surprised and confused about the origin of the condition, and he credits colonoscopy screening with saving his life.

    Dr Oz even seems to think he has a perfect health record, saying, "I have done everything right. I don't have any family history, and yet I'm high risk now." His personal physician, meanwhile, is implying that even though Dr Oz's "healthy" diet was perfect, it wasn't enough to prevent colon polyps, and therefore you might get them too. (And therefore everybody should get screened...)

    Dr Jonathan Lapook, went on to say "...no matter what you do, you can't totally eliminate your risk of developing this disease, which is expected to strike 143,000 Americans and kill over 51,000 in 2010." (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_...)

    Colon polyps, in other words, appear without any cause! Mainstream medicine, you see, believes in the theory of "spontaneous disease" that "strikes" people at random.

    Sort of like disease voodoo.

    No matter what you do, they say, you can't be totally sure that you're disease free. Therefore, you need all their disease screening protocols, mammograms, and CT scans (which irradiate your body and can actually cause cancer, by the way).

    What a bunch of nonsense. As any real scientist knows, everything that happens in our universe has a cause. It's a cause-effect universe, and unless you're God or can magically change the laws of the universe, you can't alter the laws of cause and effect.

    So if you develop colon polyps, there is a cause for it, and that cause is without question related to the foods you're consuming, because that's what is in contact with your small intestine, large intestine and colon. (It's not the only factor, but it's the primary factor.)

    And the more you eat meats, cooked foods, cheese, dairy products, fried foods and dead foods, the more likely you are to develop colon polyps.

    The things that prevent colon polyps are raw foods, plant foods, superfoods, aloe vera and even water.


    "Healthy" is relative
    Now, Dr Oz says he eats a "healthy" diet, but he's from the world of mainstream medicine. Even though Dr Oz has undoubtedly given a lot of really positive dietary advice to a lot of people, and even though his diet is no doubt far healthier than what most people eat, from the point of view of us who focus on superfoods nutrition, Dr. Oz is not really that deep into cutting-edge healthy eating.

    He's not an advocate of raw foods or veganism, for example, and while he smartly teaches people to avoid high-fructose corn syrup and sugar, he's places very little emphasis on avoiding other harmful ingredients like MSG, aspartame and artificial colors.

    He doesn't strongly advocate organic foods, either, and eating pesticides from conventionally-grown produce is certainly one way to aggravate your colon. Nor does Dr Oz talk much about avoiding genetically modified foods (GMOs), which we now know may actually result in pesticides being manufactured and released directly in your gut. (He did, however, interview Jeffrey Smith on his Oprah radio show, to his credit.)

    You see, Dr Oz is only considered really healthy by mainstream people who are ridiculously unhealthy by comparison. Sure, compared to what most people eat -- or even what most doctors eat -- Dr Oz has a fairly clean diet. But I don't know anyone in the world of natural health who is really that impressed with Dr Oz's dietary advice -- most of which seems "watered down" to make it more acceptable to a mainstream television audience. People like Dr Mercola no doubt follow far healthier diets than Dr Oz, and raw food gurus like Dr Gabriel Cousens will probably never be diagnosed with colon polyps.

    See, there's "mainstream healthy" and then there's "cutting edge healthy," and while Dr Oz is definitely healthy compared to mainstream consumers, he's really not that far into what I would call "cutting edge healthy eating." Don't get me wrong: His advice, directed at a mainstream audience, is extremely valuable to that audience. He's reaching an audience of diabetic, obese junk food eaters who, let's face it, watch daytime television!

    Just speaking on the facts, most of these daytime TV viewers know virtually nothing about health or nutrition. At least Dr Oz is teaching them some of the basics, and that's good a good thing. For that reason, he deserves credit for being one of the few mainstream physicians out there who at least has one foot in the realm of nutrition. One foot is a start. Both feet are even better.

    But don't confuse Dr Oz with someone who has attained a state of perfect human health. Whatever polyps appear in Dr Oz's colon are being predominantly caused by Dr Oz's food choices. That's because the body of Dr Oz follows the laws of physics, just like yours and mine. There is no law of the universe by which Dr Oz could follow a diet of perfect health and yet somehow a colon polyps would spontaneously appear in his body without cause.

    If you believe that, you believe in magic. Or voodoo. Or luck. Heck, if you believe that disease is spontaneous and appears without cause, then you might as well just eat whatever you want and pray to the spontaneous disease gods that they don't strike you down with some random affliction like diabetes. Don't laugh: There are literally some people who believe you can drink soda all day long and you'll never get diabetes as long as you "bless" your soda first.

    Sure, maybe if you're Moses or some other supernatural figure endowed with magical powers. If you can turn water into wine, then maybe you really can turn soda into a healthful beverage. But for the rest of us non-supernatural beings, we need to follow the laws of biochemistry, and that means eating in alignment with the foods that will cause our bodies to express a state of health and balance. The health results you get are determined by what you feed your body, how you treat your body and what you expose your body to (as in chemicals).

    Stress is also a factor, of course, in determining your health outcome. But luck plays absolutely no role whatsoever.

    And that's important to understand because Dr Oz's physician is essentially saying that Dr Oz was struck with "a case of bad luck."

    As any real scientist would tell you, there's actually no such thing. There's bad planning, bad diets, bad choices... but there's no such thing as bad luck that cause spontaneous colon polyps.

    Maybe Dr Oz needs to discover the amazing healing power of fresh, raw aloe vera gel and talk about that on his show. Or maybe he needs to shift his diet into a new chapter of health based on more raw foods, more organics, no GMOs and more microalgae superfoods. There are many areas where Dr Oz could improve his diet by investigating superfoods and various raw plants -- especially raw aloe vera gel which I have been advocating for years. (Fresh aloe vera prevents colon polyps like nothing else...)

    I have no doubt Dr Oz will easily recover from this colon polyp incident, because he is, after all, in a relative state of good health compared to the mainstream population. But unless he takes his diet to a whole new level of health, he will likely soon have another colon polyp. Because these things, after all, do not spontaneously appear without cause as has been suggested by his physician.

    Also, while Dr Oz has offered a lot of good health advice to a lot of people, he still promotes influenza vaccines even though they don't work on 99% of those who receive them (http://www.naturalnews.com/029641_v...).

    Dr Oz, in other words, might be most accurately described as a pro-vaccine, pro-pharmaceutical, pro-screening mainstream doctor who has begun to explore some of the benefits of healthy eating but still has a long ways to go. Overall, he's a positive influence on mainstream America, so I'm glad he's out there, and I hope he continues to move in the right direction on superfoods, organics and cutting-edge nutritional remedies.

    But don't confuse Dr Oz with someone who espouses a "perfect" diet. Based on what I know, he's far from it (but a lot closer than most other doctors, for sure). And he hasn't done "everything right."

    None of us have, actually. We all veer from dietary perfection from time to time. Today I ate a sandwich at a vegan restaurant, but the bread was white bread! Is that white bread going to increase my own risk of colon polyps? Absolutely, by some tiny amount. That's why I'm chasing it later tonight with an 8 oz. glass of fresh organic vegetable juice made in my countertop Hurom "Slow Juicer." And tomorrow morning I'll drink a breakfast smoothie blended with raw aloe vera juice.

    The healing effects of the raw juices and aloe vera gel will more than make up for eating one vegan sandwich made with white bread.

    I'm not perfect with my diet, you know. Sure, I eat a lot of superfoods and some really cutting-edge nutrients like astaxanthin, but I slip up from time to time and ingest something that's less than perfect. Fortunately, I've discovered that my body knows how to heal itself, and as long as I'm ingesting superfood nutrients and sunshine while getting plenty of exercise, the body can handle a slice of bread from time to time.

    Dr Oz photo by David Berkowitz

    http://www.naturalnews.com/029655_colon_polyps_Doctor_Oz.html
  2. Snow Leopard

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    Perhaps the author doesn't quite understand how complex the body is. Luck aka statistical chance really is a factor in developing disease, whether we like it or not.
  3. urbantravels

    urbantravels disjecta membra

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    I think some people willfully refuse to understand that sometimes, bad stuff just happens, and no amount of "perfection" in our behavior can prevent it.

    For some things, we can shift the odds a bit ... but there are no guarantees in life. Absolutely none.
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    "So if you develop colon polyps, there is a cause for it, and that cause is without question related to the foods you're consuming, because that's what is in contact with your small intestine, large intestine and colon. (It's not the only factor, but it's the primary factor.)

    And the more you eat meats, cooked foods, cheese, dairy products, fried foods and dead foods, the more likely you are to develop colon polyps."

    Wow, "cause without question"! How nice to live with such certainty, and no evidence.
    The Masai must be all dying of colon cancer...
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    I have had a number of colonoscopies, and alas polyps have been found on a number of occasions.

    "And the more you eat meats, cooked foods, cheese, dairy products, fried foods and dead foods, the more likely you are to develop colon polyps." Mike Adams

    I do believe our food suppy did get raped and unintentionally my parents believed in the advertising and followed suit. (Oh that doughy-soft white bread--but it has been enriched!) I am 65, and was 7 when we got our first t.v. I remember a lot of those commercials, even cigarettes looked healthy.

    Then when I was first married, I did not pay a lot of attention to nutrition except the obvious, lots of Vit C through fruits, added cheeses to dishes, and made sure my kids ate protein (meat) every day, fried foods? Yuk!.

    Little by little my awareness increased and our diet improved, this was a very slow process over the years; but not at the level of Mike Adams. It has been so many years since I had a soda, I cannot remember. We have opted for a less green more sparce, environmentally-friendly lawn. We try growning a few veggies in the summer. I grow herbs year round.

    Over the years, I have attempted to eliminate meat from my diet substituting other proteins...... never have I noticed so profoundly a reaction to my not eating something. My system evidently needs the protein..... I am an animal lover. If I had to slaughter the beautiful creature MYSELF, well, I just could not do it.

    I have not eaten much wheat in over 30 years. Over two years, I fined-tuned that to no gluten due to my gut not tolerating gluten.

    Last colonoscopy was two years ago, I am hoping when I have a follow up in another three, I will be polyp free.

    My mind is going around in circles here.

    Our food has been overly processed, we are far removed from its source and this is not a good thing. The recent egg scare is an example and we don't even think of eggs as being processed but the chain of origin to end consumer certainly is flawed. (I buy my eggs from a small local farm where I have brought my grandchildren to watch the chickens run around.)

    We do need to be more aware...we need to be more self-sufficient (who has the energy for that?) in our food products, but I also believe we can do the best to do everything "right" and still get "zapped" with something. Eating healthier can make our journey through life a little more pleasant, and praying certainly helps me although must admit, I have never transformed coffee into a healthy veggie-filled smoothie for breakfast.

    June
  6. andreamarie

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    I rarely post, but this is something I know about. I worked for the Crohn's and Colitis Foundation for ten yrs and wrote and edited about g.i. diseases.
    We do not know what Dr. Oz eats at home. I'm sure it's organic.
    There is NO research that shows that a raw or vegan diet prevents colon polyps. I edited publications from the Malicroit Research Center at Mass General. It is led by Dr. Kurt Isselbacher and it's primary goal is finding a cure for colon cancer.
    The one thing we do know is that genetics plays a major role in malignant polyps. All his siblings and children will be screened early and often.

    The research is VERY sophisticated and involves DNA susceptibility, etc.
    InTuneJune, I'm surprised at the advice your gastro is giving you. Most recommend a colonoscopy every yr if polyps appear.
    There have been some good studies that show Motrin prevents polyps.
    I lost one of my brilliant docs to NonHodgkins lymphoma. Another one survived. Their major risk factor was they were middle aged white males.
    Andrew 1 and Ravels were correct. What did this group do wrong to get CFS? Blame the victim.
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    InTuneJune: if you removed gluten from your diet because of Celiac disease, that is a major risk factor.

    Blaming the victim infuriates me. Why are the people on this board so ill. I know two vegans who have CFS.
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    are u saying that celiac disease is a major risk factor for colon cancer?

    what about gluten intolerance.

    I can't decide whether to have a colonoscopy or not. The only risk factor is having cfs....
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    I can confirm that, contrary to the artcile, bad luck does exist

    I can further confirm that voodoo exists - no idea if it works but it does definately exist

    a raw food diet will make your body work harder to get the nutrition it requires - there is a school of theought that believes that we wouldnt have evolved in the way we have if we hadnt of started eatign cooked food as its easy to get energy from - leaving more energy and time for other activities - such as farmign and food processing to allow stable population growth

    IMO the idea that people are designed to eat raw vegatarian food is nonsense as we wouldnt be what we are without both cooked food and meat - at best we'd still be in caves
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    dr. oz should name his polyp "loly". loly polyp
  11. August59

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    My brother is 5 years older than I am, but he has always eaten better than me by far. He started with polyps at age 43 and has had 10 -15 removed, but GI dct has him only getting colonoscopy every 3 years. I have had 2 colonoscopies with no polyps at age 40 and 45. GI dtr will not do another until 55 years old. In his words "Your colon looks absolutely perfect and you did a perfect job of preparing, so that I could see everything in detail":Retro tongue::tongue::victory::eek:

    I don't see how anyone could not be cleaned out after a half gallon of "Go-Lytely", but he said you would be surprised. If they come in like that he repeats them in 3 years no matter what he finds because he feels that he could have missed something:confused:
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    I have no idea if celiac disease is a risk factor for colon cancer.
    In the Boston area gastros are very conservative and scope EVERY yr if you have polyps. It takes about three yrs for many benign polyps to become malignant.
    I've lost two friends to colon cancer. Both had family histories. One refused to listen to his doc and did not get a colonoscopy at fifty. Three yrs later was too late.
    You can think you're clean but not be totally visible. Some of this can depend on the skill of the gastro doing procedure. I've had MANY colonoscopies but there was one where I wasn't totally clean. I use the same prep consistently.
    My other friend who died had a family history, was told to come back to repeat scope, gastro couldn't see small area because he wasn't clean. He didn't come back.
    I have small bowel Crohn's disease in remission and an aunt who had colon cancer when she was thirty two. I have a colonoscopy every two yrs. I called the head of the research unit for colon cancer (he was my former gastro) and asked his advice. He said he wished all gastros did this and gave me a statistic on how many lives it would save yrly.
    The good news for the younger people is that a "virtual colonoscopy" is getting much better. The bad news is you still have to do the prep. The prep is the worst part .They give you great stuff during the procedure.
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    I think Dr. Oz was not saying he did everything right so he shouldn't have a polyp. Just the opposite, YOU CAN'T DO EVERTHIING RIGHT! My cousin was a cardiologist who did everything "right" for heart disease. He had a heart attack while jogging and didn't make it. He was fifty eight. He was with my CFS doc who called 911 while trying to keep him alive. He told people not to jog alone in isolated areas. To be fair to my cousin, he said since no one knew what caused heart disease, it could happen to anyone.

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