Hi Flex, Fair enough. I think you make good points : ) On the one hand - it's just a forum of unknown entities, as you say, maybe we could all be "at the point where I really dont care what the BS folk say because its just BS. ( two different meanings there)". But it's the fact there are people there who have access to say, the Guardian etc. who might write prejudicially about the ME/CFS community; that there are those who have already been making inflammatory comments about named medical practitioners/ organisations (other than Myhill, by the way); and against those advocating for ME/CFS sufferers, that means we have to engage to some degree. The implications for the ME/CFS communities and their supporters are enormous, but we're not getting a chance to analyse the situation properly because of the relentless baiting and some frankly outrageous claims being thrown at us all, and the interminable ad hominem. I sadly therefore don't think we can ignore this situation with the BSers. Just a few other issues that have presented themselves in the past few days: 1. If I've read the GMC transcript right - Professor Bouloux (the 'expert'?) is claiming anything that is not NICE approved is WRONG? The adverse implications of that way of thinking are enormous for one thing. That's if I'm right in what I'm interpreting. 2. We've already seen some inconstencies/inaccuracies in some claims about Myhill arising from the BS forum, some of which have been discussed here. But are the GMC going to take these at face value? Do the GMC have the wisdom to conduct an objective investigation when the background noise is deafening, basically? 3. Is there a frenzy of reporting to the GMC of ME/CFS 'friendly' doctors about to happen from BSers? What are the implications for ME/CFS sufferers? Are they to become 'collateral damage'? 4. Will certain ME/CFS community members respond in kind if they feel backed into a corner? That could happen - I've seen indications it might. The pernicious effects of state-medically sanctioned inappropriate psychologisation have gone on so long - this latest possibility of a 'blitz' on the private doctors may be the last straw for some. What implications does THAT possibility have? There are likely to be many more issues that need to be considered. However, while the whole issue has been couched in the terms of the BSers rules of engagement, clear, careful, rational discussion is being precluded.