I don't want to give these guys publicity. so I won't publish their website. If you check it out, one sells vitamins, and both of them are much much involved in private services that are not covered by medicare. They are using technologies that are not recognized by MSP and are heavy on vitamin infusions and what not. They recommend Wii fit and are associated with a fitness center! At the June conference, Venter said there was a Lightning Process study in progress for CFS and FM patients. Doesn't that raise the hair in the back of your neck? It does for me. So let's make it clear, we have 2 scientific studies proving the presence of a retrovirus in blood of CFS patients. In the last 25 years, biofeedback, LP, vitamins, counselling, exercise has not helped in getting us better. These will not eradicate a retrovirus and get you back on your feet. Give me a real doctor. I have paid my taxes, paid my MSP, has served the public as a nurse. Why is it that I don't have access to health care?