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Dr. Francis Collins (NIH): "Forty similar deliberate-infection studies" ME/CFS??

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  1. muffin

    muffin Senior Member

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    Is ME/CFS just one of those "forty similar deliberate-infection studies"???
    Below is the NIH "Freedom of Information Act" page with guidelines. I would like to know what those other 40 deliberate-infection studies are. We have a right to that information, so, if others would also send a FOIA request for this information and look to see if CFS/ME, Retrovirus, and other key words for our symptoms, etc. are in that list then we will have evidence that yes, we are an experiment that went horribly wrong and worldwide. Please send the FOIA request to NIH. Dr. Collins made the statement, so we have a right to know WHAT that 40 infections are.
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    "The U.S. government ordered two independent investigations to uncover exactly what happened in Guatemala and to make sure current bioethics rules are adequate. They will be led by the prestigious Institute of Medicine and the Presidential Commission for the Study of Bioethical Issues.
    While deliberately trying to infect people with serious diseases is abhorrent today, the Guatemalan experiment is not the only example from what National Institutes of Health Director Dr. Francis Collins on Friday called "a dark chapter in the history of medicine." Forty similar deliberate-infection studies were conducted in the United States during that period, Collins said.NIHinfo@od.nih.gov

    http://www.nih.gov/icd/od/foia/

    Freedom of Information Act Office
    The NIH FOIA Staff welcomes you to the NIH FOIA Home Page. We hope you will find this site informative and that it will give you a better understanding of NIH's public information programs. We will continue to improve this site to bring you current program information.
    NIH FOIA Staff
    Susan R. Cornell, Freedom of Information Officer and Chief FOIA Liaison, NIH
    Connie A. Wivel, Senior FOIA Specialist and FOIA Requester Service Center Contact, NIH
    Brenda J. Butler, FOIA Specialist, NIH
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    Welcome
    The NIH FOIA office generally handles three different categories of requests:
    requests for information maintained by the Office of the Director, NIH
    requests that involve trans NIH issues or initiatives unless a specific IC has responsibility
    requests for information that will not be released because it is protected by one or more of the FOIA's nine exemptions or three exclusions
    While all requests may be sent to the NIH FOIA Office, each of NIH's separate Institutes and Centers has its own FOIA Coordinator. Requesters should direct requests for information about a specific NIH component to that component. A list of the FOIA Coordinators for each component is available at this site for your convenience.
    Background/Overview
    The Freedom of Information Act ("FOIA"), 5 U.S.C. 552, provides individuals with a right to access to records in the possession of the federal government. The government may withhold information pursuant to the nine exemptions and three exclusions contained in the Act. The Electronic FOIA ("E-FOIA") Amendments which President Clinton signed into law in 1996, amended the law in several ways, including:
    extend from 10 to 20 business days (excluding holidays) the time agencies must respond to requests for information;
    require agencies to make reasonable efforts to make records available in formats desired by requesters;
    require agencies to submit the NIH FOIA Annual Report by fiscal year;
    require agencies to make the reports available to the public by computer telecommunications or other electronic means;
    require agencies to list their major information systems, record locator systems, and a reference guide or guide for obtaining information; and
    require agencies to establish electronic reading rooms that include agency policies, staff manuals, opinions made in the adjudication of cases, and an index of records released by FOIA that are likely to become the subject of subsequent FOIA requests.
    these amendments have to be implemented by specific dates.
    Guide for Submitting FOIA Requests
    Before submitting FOIA requests, individuals should ensure that the information they seek is not already in the public domain. Each of NIH's components has information available in both published format and electronically. A search of the NIH Home Page can assist requesters in locating information and lists of available publications. Such a search can also help requesters identify the component(s) most likely to have responsive documents so FOIA requests can be sent to the appropriate component for response. A list of the NIH Institutes and Centers is available at this site to assist you. A list of the FOIA Coordinators for each component also is available at this site for your convenience. FOIA requesters interested in obtaining information on federally funded biomedical research projects should consult the Computer Retrieval of Information on Scientific Projects (CRISP) database. This will enable requesters to identify the grant number and the component funding the research in their FOIA request.
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    cited publicly and officially by the Federal Government in support of an agency action that has the force and effect of law.
    In addition, if the data you request are already available to the public through an archive or other source, we will not process your request under the FOIA. In that situation, we will refer you to the archive or other source.
    More information regarding NIH implementation of Revised Circular A110 may be found at http://grants.nih.gov/grants/policy/a110/a110_guidance_dec1999.htm.
    With all FOIA requests, if the information you are interested in is not in the public domain, please follow the suggestions listed below when preparing your FOIA request:
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    forward all requests either to the appropriate FOIA Coordinator or to the NIH FOIA Office by one of the methods listed below:
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    the federal regulation or administrative order that cited the data being requested;
    the publication and/or reference cited in the federal regulation;
    the grant number under which the data were produced (this information can be obtained from the CRISP database;
    a description of the data sought; and
    a statement that the data are being requested under OMB Revised Circular A110.
    Mail the request (mark the outside of the envelope, "FOIA Request") either to the appropriate FOIA Coordinator or to the NIH FOIA Office:
    Freedom of Information Office, NIH
    Building 31, Room 5B35
    9000 Rockville Pike
    Bethesda, MD 20892
    OR Fax the request to the FOIA Office at (301) 402-4541.
    If the requester knows which component has responsive documents, the FOIA request should be sent directly to the FOIA Coordinator for that component. A list of the FOIA Coordinators for NIH components and their addresses is included at this site.
    Individuals with questions concerning their requests may contact the FOIA Coordinator to whom they sent their request or the NIH FOIA Office at 301-496-5633. Requesters may also contact the appropriate FOIA Requester Service Center or FOIA Public Liaison with questions or for a status update of their request.
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    the reasons why the requested information should be released under the Act; and
    why the denial may be in error.
    FOIA requesters should attach copies of their original requests and response letters to all appeals, clearly mark the letters and the outside envelopes, "FOIA Appeal, " and mail appeals to the following address:
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    you may be charged for search time even if we do not locate any documents responsive to your request or if the documents we locate are denied to you under one of the FOIA's exemptions.
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    On-Site Reading Room
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  2. glenp

    glenp "and this too shall pass"

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    How many of us might be affected? Some of our fore fathers! This was also covered up amongst family members.

    glen
     
  3. Rrrr

    Rrrr Senior Member

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    muffin, this is very important. thank you for doing this. i will join in.
     
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    I am really curious to see what this turns up.
     
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    A book that really opened my eyes was "plutonium files' read it about 9 yrs ago, they wrote it based on foia stuff released under clinton '94
     
  6. Tammie

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    where does the 40 deliberate infection studies quote come from? (I just skimmed the freedom of info act info, so if it is in there, sorry I missed it

    I have been saying for quite some time that I think the way we have been treated is way more than greed or ignorance.......have thought it was in vaccines or done as a biological warfare experiment type of thing......this does not surprise me at all, but I want to be able to pass the info along to skeptics so I need to know exactly where the quote came from
     
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    Hi muffin, I have been thinking about these revelations for two days now. If CFS is related, would this make CFS the 42nd such atrocity? I know some people are calling it the third (but we have yet to find proof). I really wish someone would leak the secret UK documents to wikileaks.

    Bye
    Alex
     
  8. leela

    leela Slow But Hopeful

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    Muffin! Thank you for posting this great resource and great suggestion.
    Do you know if we need to word our requests specifically, i.e. know precisely what documents we are looking for?
    Or is it enough to ask for "any and all documents pertaining to deliberate infection of individuals or groups by any US government agency or known to any US government agency"?

    I also think it might be useful to request documentation of accidental infection. Another thread (I think it's "Could XMRV be Transmitted by Vaccine")
    led me to this link, an FDA-sponsored conference on SV40 and such from 1999, with Francis Collins in attendance.
    http://www.vaccinetruth.org/fda_workshop.htm
     
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    caledonia

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    There's quite the list HERE:

    There's quite the list / Timeline HERE:
    http://naturalnews.com/029924_medical_experiments_Guatemala.html

    and continued... HERE:
    http://www.naturalnews.com/022383_research_experiments.html

    The above links probably cover many of the "deliberates", but as someone stated in the comments following the article(s), there are more........

    My own speculation/consideration fwiw (if anything):

    Lyme is referred to as Tuskegee II ... W/ the Plum Island Hx, etc. that would be one to add.....
    Not sure if I see anything obvious that points to CFS other than the mention of GWS (civilian similarity) & also HepB vaccs as potential culprits... otherwise misc chemical assaults....
     
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    Shameful, shameful, shameful!

    Judging by this list, it's not beyond the realms of possibility that something else sinister (but as yet 'unconfessed'), has been foisted upon the unknowing public. Certainly it could account for our governments’ all-out efforts to conceal and belittle the existence and importance of M.E./CFS
     
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  13. Mark

    Mark Acting CEO

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    The really shocking thing to me, is that the breaking of this news has come as such a shock to so many people! I think it's fantastic news that this has come out; it should really make people sit up and think, and help to break them out of their naive trust. And in terms of the much deeper and darker conspiracy theories about our illness, I have to agree there as well with other posters: really sinister origins to our illness really are plausible. Not that I believe dogmatically that our illness was engineered, I really have no idea, and no conspiracy theorist out there knows either, no matter how certain they are that they know what's really going on. But I keep an open mind: it is absolutely possible. Stop press: believe it or not, people sometimes do very, very bad things, and scientists and doctors are no exception to that.
     
  14. Cloud

    Cloud Guest

    Testing new drugs and even weaponry on uninformed citizens is nothing new.....but indeed it is horribly unethical. I'm glad to see a public apology and admission of a history involving other such testing....but this public apology is just a useless token unless followed with a complete fessing up and taking full responsibility for all of it....especially the testing that continues to affect people today.

    They act abhorred like this is some new discovery of outrageous policy that would never happen in todays world...haha. It's an insult to the world by acting like they didn't know about this....cmon, their fessin up only because they got busted. If they want me to believe they truly want to make it right......they need to walk their talk.
     
  15. glenp

    glenp "and this too shall pass"

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    leela Slow But Hopeful

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    The whole of the list of atrocities is absolutely nauseating. Of course I haven't the time to verify the sources etc, but much of it seems well documented; but as Reverby points out in the article posted above, there is a great deal of misinformation floating around.

    Here's a tidbit from The List that just adds salt to the festering sore of horrors:
    (1963)

    Chester M. Southam, who injected Ohio State Prison inmates with live cancer cells in 1952, performs the same procedure on 22 senile, African-American female patients at the Brooklyn Jewish Chronic Disease Hospital in order to watch their immunological response. Southam tells the patients that they are receiving "some cells," but leaves out the fact that they are cancer cells. He claims he doesn't obtain informed consent from the patients because he does not want to frighten them by telling them what he is doing, but he nevertheless temporarily loses his medical license because of it. Ironically, he eventually becomes president of the American Cancer Society (Greger, Merritte, et al.).
    :eek:
     

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