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Dr. Chia Produces New Form of Oxymatrine

Discussion in 'Antivirals, Antibiotics and Immune Modulators' started by Cort, Jul 29, 2009.

  1. Cort

    Cort Phoenix Rising Founder

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    Oxymatrine

    Any of Dr. Chia's patients out there? Apparently oxymatrine is a pretty important part of his protocol. He was supposed to be producing a pure product from China that he would sell at his office. I emailed him about that but got no answer - anyone know if it's available. Anyone tried it?

    http://aboutmecfs.org/Trt/TrtOxymatrine.aspx
  2. August59

    August59 Daughters High School Graduation

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    There is a place in Atlanta that claims to be selling it. How pure and the strength need I'm not sure of. It's a place called Accupuncture Atlanta and can be goggled. They apparently sell a boat load of other herbs as well.
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    Cort,

    Can't answer your question. Rather than email why not call his office and ask if they sell it. I believe this is his source in Hong Kong: http://www.mingxinpharm.com/contact-e.htm Maybe you can contact them and see if they export it to individuals, I never tried.

    Have you had the lab testing done? If not it's real easy to do if you have a doctor willing to test you. Let me know if you want the info. I think he said it helps about 50% of his patients to varying levels of improvement. He also uses or used Ribivirin(sp) along with Interferon but that is about $2,000/month.

    SU
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    Oxymatrine

    I was a patient of Doc Chias as well.

    Superuser pretty much summed things up. The only thing is, he doesn't get that high of a success rate, being 50%.. I think he told me 20% or so, have a positive response, Unfortunately I wasn't one.

    Mike
  5. Cort

    Cort Phoenix Rising Founder

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    Haven't had the testing done - no money right now. That success rate sounds about right. Good idea about calling the office!
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    Hi to all! New here..but I wanted to reply as I'm a patient of Dr. Chia. I'm on long term, high dose Anti-virals (2 1/2 years) and will soon start Oxymatrine. Until recently the safest source for the Oxymatrine was in Kowloon, Hong Kong...but Dr. Chia's office has a local (South Bay area in Ca., I believe) source. That's the product I'll be using (have not picked mine up yet and I think it may be in the form of a supplement, not quite sure!)...along with continuing the 3200mg. of acyclovir per day. I'll be glad to post my experience with this combination after a few weeks. jackie
  7. Cort

    Cort Phoenix Rising Founder

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    Dr. Chia's new form of Oxymatrine is now available

    Dr. Chia, an infectious disease specialist focusing on chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS), has finished the production of a pure form of Oxymatrine, an alkaloid derived from the Sophora plant in China. Oxymatrine is used to treat many diseases including hepatitis and cancer there. Oxymatrine has been an important part of Dr. Chia’s protocol for several years and it played an integral role in returning his son, Andrew Chia, to health.

    The concern over the purity of products coming from China prompted Dr. Chia to produce a more stable and effective preparation of Oxymatrine called Equilibrant. He took the opportunity to add other immune factors to the mix. He stated that

    Equilibrant, containing oxymatrine and a number of immune modulators. This herbal preparation, a dietary supplement, is made from the highest quality extracts under FDA certified Good Manufacturing Practices (cGMP) in the United States. It is also laboratory tested in FDA registered analytical laboratories.

    Side effects, though usually temporary are not uncommon. They can be ameliorated by slowly increasing the dose.

    You’ll generally know if the preparation works in from one to three months. Longer courses may be necessary if the patient is tolerating the drug well. Expect to be taking the drug for a year (at least) if it works.

    Patients with symptom flares can be on it long-term without side effects. Maintenance doses are possible.

    Fifty percent of patients have experienced improvement - some dramatic. Relatively long-term use of the herbs is required to prevent relapse in many patients.

    Patients with autoimmune manifestations or seizures should not take these herbs.

    It is best that a physician supervises the patient on any herbal product and blood tests can be done in 2-3 months after starting the herbal product.

    Price: Each Equilibrant box contains 90 tablets. The price is $ 49.95 USD per box. It is professionally packaged in blister cards, which protect the stability of each tablet. You can find the product here for more information.

    Check out a two-part interview with Dr. Chia
  8. Aftermath

    Aftermath Guest

    Equilibrant

    You can purchase direct from the Equilibrant Web site.
  9. Cort

    Cort Phoenix Rising Founder

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    Dr. Chia's Main Treatment Focus

    Thanks - I don't know how I missed that. I asked him in an e-mail was efficacy of oxymatrine without interferon. I was surprised to hear that oxymatrine is apparently his main treatment choice now.

    A Main Focus of Treatment - For many years Dr. Chia used interferons and Oxymatrine to treat his patients but he has dropped interferon use for all but one subset of patient. When I asked him about the efficacy of Oxymatrine a as a stand-alone treatment he stated:

    That's pretty interesting - a pretty effective somewhat affordable immune modulator/antiviral.
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    I am hopeful about oxymatrine. Seems like some powerful stuff to be taking w/o a prescription, though.
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    purchasing equilabrant

    I have tried twice from the website. You need a doctor and they have not contacted me with one based on my zipcode (because there probably isn't one within 1000 miles:)).

    Anyone else have that experience?
  12. Cort

    Cort Phoenix Rising Founder

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    ouch! I thought you could just order it. no physician in my area either - and I'm in San Diego!
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    If this is from Shrubby Sophora I know Allergy Research has a formula with that herb called PhytoCort (not named after Cort LOL).
    I don't particularly like that he's blended it with other stuff, as I can be sensitive to one herb in a combination.
    But Shrubby Sophora is a very interesting herb.
  14. Aftermath

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    Very Strange

    Add New York, DC and Boston to the cities where no affiliated physician returns in the results.

    Very strange that they are requiring a relationship with a proprietary physician for a nutritional supplement.

    Cort, if you have a back channel, you may want to use it to inquire on specifics.

    This isn't going to fly very far unless they get their act together.
  15. Cort

    Cort Phoenix Rising Founder

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    Equilirant responds

    Equilibrant responded:

    The web site is new and has problems that we are trying to fix.
    For people with no physicians in their area, they may use the "no physician" code# 7f1271488a.

    For international customers, they can email and place order at sophorahealth@gmail.com.

    Please let us know if there are further questions.

    Best Regards,

    Equilibrant support team (sophorahealth@gmail.com)
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    Thanks Cort.

    I was able to register, though I couldn't get back from the terms and conditions page (that may have been me).

    When I got to the credit card part, I got an error 3 times. Don't think it was me. I checked and I have room on the credit card.

    Oh well. If anyone else orders successfully, let me know, thanks!

    Kelly
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    Hi all,

    I ordered oxymatrine from a site listed on a thread somewhere on your forum. It wasn't expensive -- it is called "white tiger" and distributed in us by a portland, oregon outfit.

    Didn't need a prescription or a doc-- don't know the quality though

    Rosebud
  18. Cort

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    Hi Rosebud - yes, quality is indeed the question in products coming from the big country of China. I will send Kelly's question on- they are having problems!
  19. kolowesi

    kolowesi Senior Member

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    Thanks, Cort!

    You are much more than a web master:):):):):):)
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    and I meant to add...

    thank you Cort for posting information on this! :)

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