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disheartened about feeling so unwell at 15 weeks

Freddd

Senior Member
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Salt Lake City
I am at 15 weeks and keep counting, hoping that any day now I will feel better. I increased m b12 just over 2 weeks ago from 1000mcg to 1250mcg (hoping that these intense headaches and itchy skin would be cut short if i increased the dose). I had the headaches and itchy skin before i started the protocol but it is now worse. In the last day I have decided to go back to the 1000mcg of mb12 as the symtpoms had just got unbearable.

Soeone has posted to tell me that the first 3-4 months can be the worse. have others still had bad symtpoms at this stage adn how long does it take to start to emerge, with a glimmer of feeling better.

I am hoping i is just a matter of time, but i do have doubts creeping in. SO itchy and the headahces are really bad- even the actviated charcoal seems not to be helping now? Could it be that 2 weeks down the track from the increase in mb12, it is just too much for my body. Any thought- I am so confused about what I might expect for recovery. do i just wait another month or 2- can it really take 5 months to start feeling a bit better rather than worse? Is the reaasoning for feeling worse to do with mobilization of toxins that the body is not eliminating adeuately ? or could this be mercury being chelated?

I am sorry to have posted so much recently . I just feel confused and am telling myself to hang in there.


Hi Suzanne,

Sounds like low potassium and/or low methylfolate. Headaches go both ways. Itching, specifically subdermal is often low potassium. With a rash it is usually low methylfolate.

Version 1.2 12/08/2013

Group 1 – Hypokalemia onset. Symptoms may appear with serum potassium as high as 4.3. May become dangerous if ignored. Considered “rare” with CyCbl (cyanocobalamin) it is very common with MeCbl (methylcobalamin) and AdoCbl (adenosylcobalamin) and less so with HyCbl (Hydroxycobalamin).

There does not appear to be a clear order of onset. The order of onset varies widely from person to person but many appear consistent for each episode for any given person. There tend to be more and more intense symptoms as it gets worse. Some people have ended up in the ER because of not recognizing the symptoms.

IBS – Steady constipation, Nausea, Vomiting, Paralyzed Ileum,

Hard knots of muscle, Sudden muscle spasms when relaxed, Sudden muscle spasms when stretching , Sudden muscle spasms when kneeling, Sudden muscle spasms when reaching , Sudden muscle spasms when turning upper body to side, Tightening of muscles, spasms and excruciating pain in neck muscles, waking up screaming in pain from muscle spasms in legs. Muscle weakness

Abnormal heart rhythms (dysrhythmias), increased pulse rate, increased blood pressure

Emotional changes and/or instability, dermal or sub-dermal Itching, and if not treated potentially paralysis and death.


Group 2a - Both

IBS – Diarrhea alternating with constipation, IBS – Normal alternating with constipation


Group 2b – Either or both

Headache, Increased malaise, Fatigue



Group 3 - Induced and/or Paradoxical Folate deficiency or insufficiency

These symptoms appear in 2 forms generally, the milder symptoms that start with partial methylation block and the more severe symptoms that come on as partial methylation block gets worse or very quickly with methyltrap onset.

Edema - An additional thing I would like to mention. I would never have found it without 5 years of watching the onset of paradoxical folate insufficiency and trying to catch it earlier and earlier and to figure out what was causing it and to reverse it. For me the onset order goes back to the day of onset now with edema and a sudden increase of weight. I noticed that within 2 hours of taking sufficient Metafolin I would have an increase in urine output.


Old symptoms returning

Edema

Angular Cheilitis, Canker sores,

Skin rashes, increased acne, Skin peeling around fingernails, Skin cracking and peeling at fingertips,

Increased hypersensitive responses, Runny nose, Increased allergies, Increased Multiple Chemical Sensitivities, Increased asthma, rapidly increasing Generalized inflammation in body, Increased Inflammation pain in muscles, Increased Inflammation pain in joints, Achy muscles, Flu like symptoms

IBS – Steady diarrhea, IBS – Diarrhea alternating with normal, Stomach ache, Uneasy digestive tract,

Coated tongue, Depression, Less sociable, Impaired planning and logic, Brain fog, Low energy, Light headedness, Sluggishness, Increase irritability, Heart palpitations,


Longer term, very serious

Loss of reflexes, Fevers, Forgetfulness, Confusion, Difficulty walking, Behavioral disorders, Dementia, Reduced sense of taste, bleeding easily




Group 4 - HyCbl onset, degraded MeCbl onset, MeCbl after photolytic breakdown onset.

Itchy bumps generally on scalp or face that develops to acne like lesions in a few days from start.


It took me 10 minutes after putting the first MeCbl under my tongue to start feeling better.
 

brenda

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UK
@suzanne

Its been three weeks since you posted and three years since you were discussing your problems. It would be nice to hear how you are doing. From what you were saying, l would have said that milk thistle stands out to me as possibly a problem and liver stress overall. Some people cannot tolerate milk thistle. Coming off all of those supplements and starting low and slow again would have been my advice. Best wishes and hope you are better now.