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Disability benefit claimants being treated 'more like human beings now'.

Discussion in 'Action Alerts and Advocacy' started by Esther12, Jul 30, 2012.

  1. Esther12

    Esther12 Senior Member

    Obviously not like actual human beings... that would be unrealistic.

    There have been a few pieces in the news today, as there are a couple of programmes on tonight about the biopsychosocial reforms to the benefits system which are being inflicted upon people. Along with the usual other articles prompted by DWP briefings about how incredibly easy it is to live a life of luxury on disability benefits.


  2. Esther12

    Esther12 Senior Member

  3. currer

    currer Senior Member

    In actual fact the real story behind "welfare reform"is always missed .

    It is not about giving the sick the opportunity of work. It is about means testing disability benefit for all but the very sickest.

    The work - related activity group - the biggest - most of whom will never get back to being well enough to actually work - will only continue to qualify for disability benefit after a year if they qualify under the current means testing rules.

    So if you have a partner who works, if you have savings, no disability benefit.
    This means that only the very poorest disabled people in Britain will get any disability benefit after the first year of sickness, even though the expense of living long term with a disabling condition is higher.

    This will save the treasury a lot of money - and they can give it to their friends, the bankers. (Come to think of it, there are a lot of bankers in the Treasury!)
  4. RustyJ

    RustyJ Contaminated Cell Line 'RustyJ'

    Noosaville, Aust
    I think you'll find that any changes, although signalled as progress, are more likely to be cost reduction or efficiency measures which will rein in costs, probably not a change in attitude.
  5. currer

    currer Senior Member

  6. SilverbladeTE

    SilverbladeTE Senior Member

    Somewhere near Glasgow, Scotland
    What have I (and others) been saying for a while, hm?
    Gulags, gas chambers, corporations...evil changes it's guise but it's always the damn same.

    Between 21 and perhaps up to 36 TRILLION dollars has been STOLEN, hidden away in tax shelters so that is theft, folks
    by just 91,000 people.
    So each of those fat cat scumbags has avoided paying tax on an average of $230 million dollars
    note that's not their total worth (business, houses etc), merely what they've managed to hide from the taxman.
    $21 trillion is about the combined economy of America and Japan.
    That is vast fortunes being syphoned off, and tax revenue lost so hey if your nation has massive defecits, you know where to look
    oh and cutting tax to the top 1% while having a war on two fronts...history long proves that's a great way to total collapse, jebuz

    One of the main reasons under pinning Greece's disintegration was massive tax evasion, basica;ly if you were rich, you evaded tax

    large scale tax evasion should be a crime on par with treason and sabotage.
    why doie sit happen? because they make sure there are ways aorund tax
    "Here Mr politician, campaign contributions...just add some bullcrap to the tax laws, please..."

    meanwhile, the ACTUAL money used on welfare and health is a gawd damn pittance versus those fatcat scum, and does a hell of a lot more good for "true" Capitolism (which requires the "base", the ordinary joes, working or not, to be secure, comfortable and spending).
    The less well off spend more of their available money, than the rich do
    basic economics/common sense.
    Disabled = jobs for carers and health workers
    Welfare system = stable country without fear that breeds terror, insecurity, mass murderers and all kinds of gawd damn evil shit that eventually leads to societal collapse.
    Guns do NOT kill people: screwed up, undiagnosed, uncertified, uncared for "blips the system cares nothing for", damn well DO kill people.
    "Conservative" systems only work in low population denisty, resource rich, homogenous areas/societies (long as you keep the pretend-conservative-scoiopaths out of power).
    Otherwise, like it or not, you need ""Western Socialism" to provide the safety net and base line of protection (long as you keep the "control freak scuzzballs" out of power).

    Benjamin Franklin and others must be turning in their graves, sigh.

    Sickness = another means ot screw wealth by doing *NOTHING* useful and eventually, exterminating those who do nto makemoney
    ie, so-called "health insurtance companies"

  7. Kate_UK

    Kate_UK Senior Member

  8. Sasha

    Sasha Fine, thank you

    Personally I'm less bothered about being treated like a human being (though wouldn't that be lovely) than I am about having my capacity to work accurately assessed. I am unable to look after myself and yet am having to appeal a decision to place me in the ESA WRA group. Glad I'm not actually coughing blood like that poor guy in the documentary.

    It has bothered me, in media interviews with disabled charities and activists, this emphasis on how the problems with the process are that it is inhumane and doesn't take the person as a whole. What the ordinary listener/viewer will take away from that is the message that the test is accurate but unpleasant; that it's doing a necessary but tough job. I wish they would just ram home the message, over and over, that it's not fit for its purpose: to distinguish between those who can prepare for work and those who can't.

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