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Dental hygiene

Discussion in 'Skeleton, Skin, Muscles, Hair, Teeth, and Nails' started by ozikiwi, Mar 26, 2015.

  1. ozikiwi

    ozikiwi

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    Who believes their dental hygiene affects their ME/CFS?
     
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    GhostGum Senior Member

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    Bacterial/stomach wise no doubt, I am always amazed at the smell that comes out of my teeth when I water floss, which might be the best gadget I have ever bought. A couple of days without water flossing and it can easily lead to unnecessary nausea and just fuel stomach issues.
     
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    I do know dental hygiene can impact your health in general and specifically the heart, so it does make sense it would affect me/cfs.

    Barb.

    ETA

    @GhostGum What kind of water floss apparatus do you use? I am wearing braces and have a terrible time throughly flossing. Thanks.

    Barb
     
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    Revel Senior Member

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    My dentist would certainly agree with you, @barbc56. He always says to floss, floss, floss to help maintain a healthy heart. I make sure that I do as I'm told :D!
     
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    I use a home made essential oils spray when I clean my teeth. It is the 'Thieves' mix which is supposed to kill 99% of bacteria, made from 5 oils added to distilled water which are should be food grade. I also use it whenever I have been in contact with flu virus - I just spray it to the back of my throat. It can also be used to coat the hands when returing home. I don't catch anything now.
     
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    @brenda, which ingredients are there in your oils spray ? Sounds interesting. Thank you
     
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    Clove
    Rosemary
    Cinnamon
    Eucalyptus
    Lemon

    In a small galss bottle with spray top I use about 3 drops of each though some sources vary the amounts. It can be used for anything. It works on mould I have found.
     
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    @barbc56 I use the cheap waterpik model, $60 I think it is. Am also into the last few months of braces as well, could not have managed without it. I think for general use though it is also superior to traditional floss, not to mention more convenient.

    @brenda nice spray, wish I had something like this when I had a rotten tooth. Will keep this in mind coming flu season.
     
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    Thank you so much! :)
     
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  10. SickOfSickness

    SickOfSickness Senior Member

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    Yes my overall health is probably worse because I don't put enough time and effort into dental hygiene.

    But if I put more time and effort, my health would be worse too. I should do a little more, but beyond that, it's not worth it.
     
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    well, there are of course those issues about bleeding gums being an entry point for bacterial infections. But mostly I see it the other way around.

    At the moment I have no real issue with brushing or flossing but I had two years where I could not use a knife and fork, and many more where flossing was beyond me most of the time. Even when it was posssible it was a sort of brute force thing where I would clumsily pull the floss between my teeth so hard that it often left my gums bleeding, and it was just in and out no attempt to apply the floss to one surface and then another.

    I have also had digestion issues that meant I was not probably not absorbing minerals and fat soluable vitamins for much of that time, which left my teeth transparent in places. They are getting better on vitamins K, A and D, bile salts and betaine hcl.

    I found this helpful http://www.marksdailyapple.com/nutritional-cures-for-damaged-teeth/
     
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  12. ozikiwi

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    Ahhh......SOS.....finally somebody telling me what I want to hear!
    I had poor dental hygiene before I got ME and being 60 and at the far end of the spectrum, I feel dental work is not a priority - esp financially.
     
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    Ahhh......SOS.....finally somebody telling me what I want to hear!
    I had poor dental hygiene before I got ME and being 60 and at the far end of the spectrum, I feel dental work is not a priority - esp financially.
     
  14. ozikiwi

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    Oh boy I have totally upset the order of these replies.......sorry peeps!
    I wrote my response to SOS yest but forgot to send.
    So I pressed 'send' and it tagged onto Richard's contribution.......mama mia!
    Anyway, bottom line is thanks for sharing your experiences Richard & the link..........very interesting reading.
     
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    Got me thinking, have you tried other combinations as well, teatree, ginger, fennel, sage and maybe peppermint or spearmint for flavour? Don't these oils have an issue mixing well with water as well? Anyway such a great idea to use these as a spray.
     
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    The mix is supposed to have the highest killing power for pathogens. I guess you could improve the flavour for mouth spraying if you choose. The bottle should be shaken before use. I find it mixes well.
     
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    I'm fairly sure I've read that when applying clove oil for toothache, you have to be careful not to get it on the teeth rather than the gums, as it can damage the enamel. But then I use a herbal mouthwash with some sort of clove extract in it. Maybe it's just the essential oil that does that?

    Tell me more about water flossing! My teeth are not in a good state, and I am having to wait a ridiculously long time for the specialist dentist (home visits etc.) due to their fucking up my records and such. It's going to be a year since I was referred. Actually, when I say "tell me about water flossers", please don't go into detail about dental stuff. I have a fairly massive dental phobia. Are they likely to flare up any other problems such as receding gums, and are they generally worthwhile? I have a small bathroom, and spend half the week at my partner's, who has an absolutely minuscule bathroom with no shaver socket. Also what is "air flossing" and how does that compare?
     
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    I've just ordered a Panasonic flosser, after reading umpteen reviews. Review highlights:

    "This is a brilliant little squirter"
    "Really illuminates your morning breath"
     
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    @Calathea Just noticed your reply here, how did you go with it? I think receding gums may be a problem with water flossers, but as far as I can tell it is nothing serious; have noticed a little receding on a few teeth but it has not got any worse over months. I turned the pressure down quite low but still so that it is pushing through the gaps well. I am also really sloppy with it, you are suppose to stop start them in every gap, I just keep it going and move it over my teeth; time consuming enough as it is.

    Did not look into air flossing, this is what my dentist uses, maybe it is a little more gentle on the gums?
     
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    I think air flossing is just another name for the same thing. Anyway, between my new electric toothbrush, which is much better than the old one (which was falling to bits), and the water flosser (Panasonic, apparently the Waterpik ones don't last long), and the Vitamin K (Thorne MK4 drops, currently on 5mg) I started a few days ago, my teeth are feeling and smelling a lot better! I was already on Vitamin D, but I have added in Vitamin A too, as I'm vegan and won't have been getting any of these. Hopefully they will do something useful before I get to the dentist.
     

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