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"Denial in medicine - Revisionism in medicine and the case of CFS" by Ellen Goudsmit

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS Discussion' started by Dolphin, Jul 25, 2014.

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    Here's what Ellen said about it on the MEA FB page:

    https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=723044331086561&id=171411469583186

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    I thought it was interesting to see lots of specific papers and press coverage from the 1990s (and 2000) being challenged.
    It also critiques more general, timeless positions
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    Extract from "Standard elements of denial, applied to medicine" section

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    thanks
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    Thanks a lot!

    Very insightful and in depth arguments
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    You can create a free account that can access this paper as long as you have a business or educational email address.
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    Somewhere near Glasgow, Scotland
    The Medical Establishment is a *RELIGION*, it is not science, it is not caring with/fore the patient as primary, it is about enshrining the power, rights, privileges and wealth of the medical group

    it is a very very common problem with social groups, "upper middle class" and "power" professional groups often the worst of all, for example, police, politicians, university tutors in their many forms (many great works of science have been repressed or buried due to jealousy by older professor etc)
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    Thanks @Dolphin

    I thought post #9 here hits the nail on the head. How can patients trust medical professionals knowing this.

    And then it gets further complicated when you know that they know that we know this.

    Tc .. x
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    planet earth
    My opinion today is that the grand plan for the planet is complicated. Extremely complicated. So much so, that having 100% clarity would just be unbelievable to almost everybody. Most people couldn't stomach the short term actions that need to be made to reach the final destination.

    The only way to get from point "A" to point "B" is to simply deny some things. Not that everybody doing the denying understands the big picture....

    I'm not happy about my personal situation at the moment, but realize eventually things are going to work out for the greater good.. Probably better than anybody could ever imagine....


    Things are managed in an seemlingly heavy handed way sometimes, but if they were done in a totally freedom loving way probably the Klu Klux Klan would end up running the show.
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    It let me download by saying I had published papers, but before I actually signed up, so I dunno...
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