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Dark Chocolate - Not cool

Discussion in 'General Treatment' started by Beyond, Jul 14, 2013.

  1. perchance dreamer

    perchance dreamer Senior Member

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    Yes, it was Scharffen Berger 82% that tasted so bad to me.
     
  2. peggy-sue

    peggy-sue

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    I signed a campaign promising to boycott Lindt until they start using ethical production methods.
    Now I can't remember if it was child slaves picking the beans or their refusal to use sustainable forests for their packaging. I think it might have been the latter, because I wouldn't have forgotten if it had been child slaves.

    But I'm still boycotting them. I've boycotted Nestle for donkey's years too - getting harder and harder as they get bigger and bigger and hiding the fact that they now own something.

    Cadbury's choccie has gone all horrible and gritty and has a bad taste since it got taken over recenttly.
     
  3. Beyond

    Beyond Juice Me Up, Scotty!!!

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    I see... The Cocoa Addicts have taken over. I must retreat now. :D
     
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  4. peggy-sue

    peggy-sue

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    Ooh, why? You started it - you should stay and feel superior to us, not being an addict yourself.:p
     
  5. Beyond

    Beyond Juice Me Up, Scotty!!!

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    I am an addict to way too many things to feel superior :( haha
     
  6. jimmy86

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    I ate about 50mg of dark chocolate (78%) yesterday and it gave me a really bad reaction, an almost immediate increase in heart rate, and low blood pressure. Today I feel like I do after drinking too much alcohol (headache etc).

    Does anyone know which ingredient of chocolate triggers these symptoms? I have hyper POTS.

    I thought about histamine, but then I do not get the same effects from other foods like cheese etc.
     
  7. Sasha

    Sasha Fine, thank you

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    Don't know. I realised dark chocolate gives me migraines (as do other foods high in tyramine). I haven't noticed that it makes my OI worse, though (I have NMH).
     
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  8. halcyon

    halcyon Senior Member

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    Perhaps the theophylline from the cocoa.
     
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  9. jimmy86

    jimmy86

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    It could be the tyramine. The same night I was eating ricotta and parmesan, both high in tyramine... It also regulates blood pressure.

    On the other hand, if I understand that correctly, POTS people have a blunted response to tyramine. http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM200002243420803 and https://www.mc.vanderbilt.edu/root/vumc.php?site=adc&doc=4792
     
  10. Sasha

    Sasha Fine, thank you

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  11. Crux

    Crux Senior Member

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    I love the stuff, but it's been worsening my migraines.
    There are many reasons for this - all valid.

    One salient possibility is that cocoa increases nitric oxide in the body.
    Nitric oxide is necessary for many functions, but too much can be neurotoxic.
     
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  12. Invisible Woman

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    Tada! 100% - Willlie's Pure Gold Cacao! Yuck!

    In fairness I think your supposed to cook with it & liven it up with something like chilli rather than have it with a cuppa.

    I eat dark choc every day and I flatly refuse to give it up. I recently saw a haematologist because of iron probs and he queried my diet & then asked about chocolate. I told him I ate dark choc every day and he queried how much. I had my stubborn face on & told him a "few" squares all ready for an argument. "Very good!" he says. "Have more!"

    Nice chap.
     
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  13. Mij

    Mij Senior Member

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    Giddy YoYo Raw cacao paste and powder. I heat it up on a double broiler, add brown rice syrup (sweetner), coconut oil until melted in and refrigerate. I sometimes make whole desserts with the raw chocolate.
     
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  14. erin

    erin Senior Member

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    I love dark chocolate. Though, it does give me a funny sluggish nauseous feeling if I eat more than one square. I have never tasted raw cacao paste and the recipe with coconut oil made my mouth watering!
    I remember tasting cacao beans and a chicken recipe made with the cacao paste. They were both absolutely delicious. Can you buy cacao beans online? Or in shops?
     
  15. Mij

    Mij Senior Member

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    I can find these at my local health food store, but I buy mine mostly online because I can get discount codes and free shipping.
     
  16. rosie26

    rosie26 Senior Member

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    As much as I love chocolate I can't eat too much of it. I get a headache as well and it irritates my gut.

    One Christmas about 10 years ago a neighbour gave me a basket full of chocolates. It was really lovely of my neighbour to do that and I was so delighted but..."oh, please, no one do that to me again, please" LOL. I did not feel good and was so glad when I got to the end of it.
     
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