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Daily Mail, again....

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS News' started by SilverbladeTE, Jan 6, 2014.

  1. SilverbladeTE

    SilverbladeTE Senior Member

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    Somewhere near Glasgow, Scotland
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...rinking-two-litres-protein-milkshake-DAY.html

    hey maybe it's true but like, Daily Mail...makes a change form them baiting Romanians, ick

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    "hopes to educate others on the importance of diet to good health"

    So all we need to do to "cure" ourselves is buy her book for £4.99

    Sigh
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    I wonder if she had malnutrition or lack of vitamins and minerals, not M.E. She actually says as much in the article that she believes she had "lack of nutrition".

    Perhaps the hospital and her doctor didn't do enough tests.

    It's frustrating tha people like her (lack of nutrition, or people with undiagnosed thyroid problems/celiac intolerance get diagnosed with ME.

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  4. Bob

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    It all sounded fairly implausible to me and then I got to the text promoting the product (and then it made sense.)
    Good nutrition is important, especially for people with chronic illness, and perhaps an increased intake of protein and nitrate helped this individual, but I very much doubt if protein shakes and beetroot juice are a cure for ME/CFS.
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    Is it possible to cure or turn around autoimmune/neurological disease by getting mineral and vitamin balance correct in the body ? If the mineral and vitamin balance are good, wouldn't the hormones function better. ?
    I am sure it would improve a lot of symptoms but I wonder if it could take you all the way out of the disease, anyone know.
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  6. Tito

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    To me, she had the wrong diagnosis made by incompetent doctors. Lack of nutrients should be the first thing to investigate.
    Ps: it says nowhere she was diagnosed with ME, the only mention is about Chronic Fatigue which is a dust bin for anything incompetent doctors cannot diagnosed (even basic nutrition deficiencies)
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    Well she probably never had ME/cfs like most of us on this forum. I think it's just a diagnosis to explain pain, fatigue and brain fog which can have many causes and other diagnosis'. It's a bit like the disability cerebral palsy which is a giant umbrella term.
    These basic symptoms as we know can be attributed to anything. I'm pretty sure no general Dr or gp diagnoses cfs based on reoccurring infections or other "cfs" problems we know that they wouldn't.
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    What ? How's that supposed to work then.
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  9. biophile

    biophile Places I'd rather be.

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    I do not respond well to either high protein shakes or beetroot juice.
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    Beets! They're not just for breakfast anymore!

    I like beets, but I'm not rooting for this cure.
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    Was that a satisfied grin I just saw from a certain Professor :nerd:
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  12. taniaaust1

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    Yeah .. fixing a deficiency can have dramatic affects if the persons issue all along was some severe deficiency (I wonder what deficiency/deficiencies she had) .. some deficiencies do cause neurological issues.
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  13. taniaaust1

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    Yeah he'd be loving this one..\

    Either the newspaper screwed up her story (which wouldnt surprise me) or its WHAT!! .. How on earth would a Ph test tell you what deficiencies you have.. Im sure they dont. Hence this whole story would make any doctors out there who read this, think this lady was just delusion about her symptoms but then just came out of her delusion. They'd be thinking "yes those ME/CFS patients have mental issues".

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    What really got to me about this story was the end part.. which said that just eggs and grilled chicken can fix many of us. That's the most ridiculous thing Ive heard for a while, it's as bad as my fired nutritionist telling me that not watching TV cures ME/CFS. (what's it with nutritionists and their expert ME/CFS advice?)
    ....

    Whey protein.. well it was helping me for a very short time.. that is until I suddenly became so intollerant that I ended up having to wear nappies!, so had no other choice but to stop it. (its one of the rare things which did help me, it worked on me over all, helping me feel a little heathier).

    Beetroot.. that may of helped me. I was juice fasting and did this juicing of several ingredients, I think it had beetroot in it and it was helping (but I couldnt do complete juice fasting forever and it was soo hard work)
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    Perhaps an answer to returning to health is simple belief (or indoctrination). Believing that such-and-such is working wonders. Believing that your own remedies will help others. Believing that selling something will lead to a better life... Hey-ho. I dare say we shouldn't think ourselves immune from snake-oil. No other illness is. Still it is a bit of a piss-take for me, when on Christmas Day, the Daily Mail online, carried THIS story, and now they carry that one. Perhaps Jessica would like to try drinking beetroot juice? (I am being ironic). I seem to recall many helpful suggestions being made to me whilst I was at my worst in the first few years. One thing I came to learn was the need to be extremely tolerant of others - never caught on with me I am afraid :)
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    Ah am I missing something here? I do not see anything mentioned about ME or CFS or her being diagnosed with it, just chronic fatigue in the heading; I guess if this leads some to think it is the same condition as ME then its a problem.

    I was thinking from the heading on this thread it was going to be another cringe worthy Michael Hanlon style article and this actually criticises the system for their lack of biological/organic/nutritional knowledge, psychological misdiagnosis and over prescription of anti-depressants; all nicely welcome.

    Do not see what the big deal is relating to ME here, the glaring factual errors and her selling a book are another story.
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    I'm glad I didn't make it to the end of the article!
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    You just read my mind..
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    Guys, I'm not seeing where they said she had ME or even CFS. It says she had "chronic fatigue". they used this term to describe many health conditions. Ok so they say "mysterious illness" well that what she had, a mysterious illness. Even a few doctors I've spoken to say chronic fatigue but know the distinction between CFS and chronic fatigue.

    Magnesium and Omega 3 deficiencies caused many neuro problems for me and when I replenished them I felt improved.
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    I didn't notice this when I first read it. I'm so used to reading similar articles referring to people who were diagnosed with CFS. However, it is highly likely that such a patient (experiencing chronic fatigue with unknown cause or etiology) would be given a CFS diagnosis, which demonstrates how important it is to have strictly defined diagnostic criteria and highly trained medical staff who can distinguish ME from CFS, and CFS from other fatiguing illnesses.

    I suppose that the article demonstrates the heterogeneity of chronic fatigue.
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    Someone reading it may still think - if they have any form of chronic fatigue - that the snakeoil was worth a shot. Personally, Chronic Fatigue is one of my symptoms - along with several others. It is not my diagnosis. But I guarantee that desperate people, and 'helpful' friends and relations, will be 'suggesting' to those affected that they 'mash up some beet'.

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