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'Crucial step made in migraine research'

Discussion in 'Other Health News and Research' started by Hutan, Jun 21, 2016.

  1. Hutan

    Hutan Senior Member

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    http://www.skynews.com.au/news/national/qld/2016/06/21/crucial-step-made-in-migraine-research.html
    Tuesday, 21 June 2016

     
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    Snow Leopard Hibernating

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  3. Keela Too

    Keela Too Sally Burch

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    Ah now that would be nice. I've been plagued with occasional, but severe migraines since I was a child. Recently I've had a bit of an extended cluster of them. Even went and got one of those daith ear piercings - which may have helped a bit, but who can be sure!

    As to the genetic component... my grandfather also suffered, but not my parents or siblings.
     
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  4. Hutan

    Hutan Senior Member

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    Here's the link to the interview audio of Associate Professor Dale Nyholt on Radio National NZ.
    http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/p...tic-study-finds-underlying-cause-of-migraines
    (edited to make the link better, thanks @Sasha)
    It's 10 minutes long.

    I think it is worth a listen if you get migraines - it adds to the information given in the article.

    At one point Nyholt suggests inflammation in the brain could be a cause along with the genetic susceptibility to vascular problems. He also later mentions as an example, a type of migraine that 'gets worse' (becomes more frequent? more severe?) with 'routine physical activity'.

    (My two children got their first migraines soon after they got ME. My migraines started when I had ME as a child and have become more frequent with this latest occurrence/relapse.)
     
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    Same here. Out of interest, do you get a migraine 'hangover' the day after? Big hit of muscle weakness, sleepiness and fatigue.

    Initially I thought it was just side effects of migraine meds and/or vomiting half a dozen times or more. But now later in life I don't get migraines as severely but still suffer the crushing fatigue the next day.
     
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    @ryan31337 A migraine hangover is the standard for me. Feels pretty close to an alcohol hangover sometimes. Interesting thing: in the beginning of my ME I would have endless days with that migraine type hangover, but without the migraine itself. Aura without migraine is what they call that sometimes. The migraine bouts have been a lot less frequent lately, but I have no idea why.
     
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  7. Richard7

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    @ryan31337 pre CFS/ME if I got that sort of typical 3 day migraine, on the 4th day my body felt sort of unfamiliar. I would have trouble getting the right series of muscle contractions (or whatever) to walk properly and have trouble using a knife and fork, or even knife, butter and piece of toast.

    So there was a problem with muscle control, I think energy my muscles did not seem to want to move quickly, and I think a kind of brain fog. I also found that it took a long time for my vision to get back to normal.

    so I guess you can add me to the list. Never called it a migraine hangover though. Other people's hangover symptoms always sounded like a migraine to me, which would I guess make it a hangover hangover.
     
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    Yes, me too for the migraine hangover. I definitely feel fatigued and drained after a migraine. I typically get a migraine as part of PEM, so it all sort of merges in to one big bleh.
     
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    Yes I get the migraine hangover also. Have had one today actually, though most are migraine aura without much pain.

    I thought I had made a breakthrough recently by addressing blood sugar issues but it seems not, though they are fewer I think so far. My migraine aura increased when I developed ME - didn't have many before that....so over the past 10 years or so then and I'm now 64.

    My father died of a stroke (at 85) so that has always worried me a bit as I know there is a link with migraine to that. I sometimes get the aura in one eye also which I gather is different and comes from a different place - retinal migraine. It's always the same eye.
     
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  10. Sasha

    Sasha Fine, thank you

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    Thanks for sharing your experiences.

    Same here, I've found eating a snack right before bed limits the frequency of 6am wake-up migraine. Skipping a meal and over-exerting is usually a good way for me to trigger a rarer evening onset too.

    Also something I have found, though not usually during the acute phase (or maybe I just don't notice because I'm moving like a zombie!)

    This is something I've only had a few times compared to hundreds of 'normal' migraine. In my experience its only happened on very hot days after exercise and is over pretty quickly with minimal pain and fatigue.

    In adolescence my migraine were absolutely obvious, always very acute and followed a standard 3 day pattern: day 1 PM mood changes, day 2 wake up with full blown migraine, day 3 fatigue. Now on their return they are much less severe and more ambiguous, often I can't even tell I'm having a migraine and wonder why I'm so clumsy (@Richard7 throwing the knife around whilst buttering toast, been there!), can't see straight or have abnormal energy/fatigue. Then the headache behind the left eye comes on a day or two later and I'm like, ohhh... right.

    Interestingly, the more drawn out the migraine seems to be the less hangover I get. In fact sometimes it feels like the opposite, fatigue and symptoms build and build for days or weeks and then after the final headache has gone I feel a dramatic improvement. I guess we experience different migraines with different triggers/pathways.
     
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