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Countess of Mar's Formal Complaint to the BBC

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http://www.sciencemediacentre.org/w...arch-function-at-the-Science-Media-Centre.pdf

Review of the first three years of the mental health research function at the Science Media Centre

'….. Tom Feilden, science correspondent for BBC Radio 4’s Today programme, won the UK Press Gazette's first ever specialist science writing award for breaking the story the SMC gave him about the harassment and intimidation of researchers working on CFS/ME. The SMC had nominated him for the award..'
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http://www.margaretwilliams.me/2016/bbc-reply-mar-nov21.pdf

Carol Rubra, BBC News in response to the Countess of Mar's letter:
“Finally I would like to reassure you about the relations between the Science Media Centre and BBC News. The SMC is a valuable resource for advice on matters requiring expert understanding but it does not condition our journalism. BBC health and Science journalists always check directly with the researchers involved in the reports they cover. Their journalism is independent and impartial, in keeping with the BBC’s Editorial guidelines”


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http://www.sciencemediacentre.org/w...arch-function-at-the-Science-Media-Centre.pdf

Review of the first three years of the mental health research function at the Science Media Centre

'….. Tom Feilden, science correspondent for BBC Radio 4’s Today programme, won the UK Press Gazette's first ever specialist science writing award for breaking the story the SMC gave him about the harassment and intimidation of researchers working on CFS/ME. The SMC had nominated him for the award...'



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Supporting experts targeted by extremists

‘We have also been involved in supporting experts who have found themselves being targeted by individuals or groups who do not like their research. This has been particularly important in the case of psychiatrists and psychologists working on chronic fatigue syndrome/ME. These researchers have found themselves in the firing line from a small group of extremists who are opposed to psychiatrists or psychologists doing research on chronic fatigue syndrome/ME.

The SMC ran a press briefing on the first findings from the PACE trial, and supported The researchers involved throughout this process, for example, by organising media training in collaboration with the MRC. When we became aware of the level of intimidation researchers were experiencing we brought together key parties for a brainstorm to discuss what could be done to aid researchers. At this event it was agreed that the harassed experts should speak out publically about the harassment they were experiencing. As a result the BBC Radio 4 Today programme ran an exposé on the piece (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14326514) and a number of outlets followed the story including the Observer (https://www.theguardian.com/society/2011/aug/21/chronic-fatigue-syndrome-myalgic-encephalomyelitis) and the Daily Mail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...reats-investigating-psychological-causes.html).



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Seizing the agenda

As well as breaking stories of new research and responding to mental health in the news, the SMC has also helped to set the agenda and frame the narrative of reporting on a number of big issues.

Previous to our background press briefing on DSM 5 few of the UK based science journalists knew about the unease amongst UK scientists. The background press briefing generated vast media coverage and informed the UK’s most important health and science reporters of the issues of concern. The SMC followed this up with several Roundups including comments from large numbers of the UK’s top mental health researchers, all generating continued media coverage.

This kind of agenda setting was also on display in our work around the harassment and intimidation of researchers working on chronic fatigue syndrome/ME. The meeting organised by the SMC on this was the first of its kind and brought the beleaguered researchers together with representatives of funding agencies, the police, the GMC etc. One of the results of that meeting was the decision of a number of academics to go public on their situation with the support of the SMC and their respective press officers .

The SMC engineered the coverage through working with the Today programme on an exclusive – a story that was planned over many weeks. The result was huge with Today making the very best of their exclusive with several different packages on the morning of release. As expected the follow up was huge with almost every newspaper, Sunday paper and influential magazine covering the subject in some way. The results of that coverage have been mixed but include the following:

· Many in the scientific community became aware of the situation having previously been unaware
· For some researchers the media coverage marked the end of their harassment. For others it has continued
· Across the board the researchers who were interviewed received a huge amount of
supportive emails from fellow scientists and from chronic fatigue syndrome/ME patients and their families

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Chris Packham (Spring watch) is trying to raise awareness if only for just dogs for Lyme disease.

Humans come down the list.

He's on UTube.com in various guises with Prof Wall and a vet. In the New Forest

Also Wimbledon common ITN
I don't know if it's the BB
I'be seen 3 news reports on ITV Anglia news. Still saying the government says
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I find it surprising that Hall gives no indication that he has personally engaged with the complaint in any way. His letter might have well as read "We have a formal complaints procedure for ignoring complaints. Don't write to me."

There may, of course, have been a robust discussion between senior and middle management challenging the beliefs and assumptions of the latter, in which case Carol Rubra is expert at concealment. She succeeds in giving the impression that senior management is merely the conduit through which the views of programme makers are to be passed to a grateful public.

It is surprising that there should appear to be such a level of disengagement with the process and values of news production, which is supposedly the major operation of the Corporation by which they wish to be judged. It may come as a surprise to them that they are.

One might have expected a greater willingness to refute, rather than merely deny suggestions of involvement in dissemination of propaganda.

Should the good Baroness of Mar find cause to write again to Tony Hall perhaps she should collaborate with her colleague at the MEA and have John Rutter arrange it as a duet for heldentenor and soprano and sung from the stage of Covent Garden in a Verdi pastiche. That might gain his attention.
 
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I am spitting blood I am so angry that the successful promotion of these harassment and intimidation claims has done such damage to the ME community, and been accepted so unquestioningly by the media. What has happened to investigative journalism in the UK? (rhetorical question btw) We know the PACE data appeal tribunal found no evidence whatever of harassment or intimidation but this was presumably only in connection with the PACE investigators themselves. What a pity we haven't seen all spurious claims tested in court in this way.

And the SMC's own language speaks for itself - "setting the agenda..." and "engineering the coverage".. Why don't they just come right out with it and announce their actual status as part of the political establishment? I doubt whether the BBC or any other part of UK media will be remotely interested or bothered since they just seem to parrot whatever is served up to them anyway.

I really hope the Countess of Mar gives a suitably robust response. Can't imagine she won't.
 

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Copied from correspondence chain here http://www.meassociation.org.uk/201...r-about-the-fitnet-nhs-trial-9-december-2016/

ON DECEMBER 8, THE COUNTESS REPLIED TO THE BBC DIRECTOR-GENERAL AS FOLLOWS
Lord Hall of Birkenhead
Director General
British Broadcasting Corporation
Broadcasting House
Portland Place
LONDON W1A 1AA


8 December 2016

Dear Lord Hall

Thank you for your letter and for the enclosed letter from Mrs Rubra of 21 November 2016 in response to my complaint of 3 November 2016.

I regret that I find your response far from satisfactory.

I readily accept that, for many years there has been a lack of attention given to CFS/ME, though I and many others in the ME community would dispute that further research into the effectiveness or otherwise of cognitive behaviour therapy (CBT) and graded exercise therapy (GET) following the doubt cast on what was supposed to be the definitive research for ME/CFS, the PACE trial, is either necessary or advisable.

Mrs Rubra states that she is aware that research about CFS has been controversial. As far as I am aware, after 20 years of working with people with CFS/ME, the only real controversy has been around research into the biopsychosocial model of the disease which has received more than the lion’s share of research funding, and the blurring of the lines between chronic fatigue, which is a symptom of many medical and psychological conditions, and myalgic encephalomyelitis which is a serious multisystem organic illness. The FITNET-NHS model is just one example. There have been one or two instances – the finding (reported by the BBC) of XMRV virus in CFS/ME patients’ blood which turned out to be laboratory contamination, for example, where patients’ hopes have been raised, only to be dashed, but that was accepted by patients as a genuine error.

Mrs Rubra mentions threats sent to people researching in the field and harassment and guide me to links where the BBC has reported harassment and threats. Part of a journalist’s ethical and professional responsibilities is to require access to proof when writing a story that makes factual claims. ‘Proof’ means that the journalist has satisfied themselves and their editor that the story is correct and can be supported in a court of law if necessary. It would be helpful if you would clarify how the story was brought to the attention of the BBC and how the subsequent fact checking of the ‘death threats’ story took place. There are some questions that arise from this situation:

1. In the case of the ‘death threats’ articles, what process of fact checking took place?
2. Was the journalist privy to written or verbal information regarding a patient’s diagnosis, or information that revealed patient details including a diagnosis?
3. Where did the information originate (Science Media Centre, individual clinician or otherwise)?
4. Did the journalist verify the link between ‘death threats’ and ME/CFS patients by possibly breaching the Data Protection Act or NHS record-keeping guidelines?

The assertions of harassment and threats, made by some researchers, were effectively debunked by the First Tier Tribunal decision of 16 August 2016 that ordered the release of raw data from the PACE trial (apparently not reported by the BBC) at page 40 of the report.

The Tymes Trust report on the Collaborative compiled from emails received under Freedom of Information shows:

“In the records of the meeting [held in January 2013] where ‘harassment of researchers was discussed, no mention was made of personal threats such as have been reported in the media. Freedom of Information (FOI) requests were listed as the most damaging type of ‘harassment’ along with complaints to the GMC and various institutions and, finally, Parliamentary Questions. The 2016 Tribunal judgement highlighted that Trudie Chalder accepted that ‘no threats had been made to either researchers or participants.” In the past I have enquired about threats and harassment reported to the press by eminent researchers in the CFS/ME field and have found that no such reports were made to the police.

I am glad that the claim for a cure for CFS was rapidly withdrawn, nonetheless, Professor Crawley spoke about ‘recovery’ and a ‘full recovery’ on a number of occasions, particularly during her interview on BBC Bristol. This was not challenged. Whilst there is some debate about the definition of ‘recovery’, following the PACE trial, I am sure you will agree that, to a lay member of the public, ‘recovery’ means that you get better and are able to resume a normal life, so there is little difference between ‘cure’ and ‘recovery’.

The Editors make the point that the focus of the interview was the trial itself. It was stated that the Fitnet-NHS trial is based upon the findings of Fatigue in Teenagers on the internet – The FITNET Trial, Nijhof et al published on 19 February 2011. What was not pointed out to listeners and viewers was that on long-term follow-up there was a null result.

In deciding to include a clip of Jane Colby from the Tymes Trust who, the Editors say, they might have substituted with someone from the ME Association, this is what Jane Colby has to say:

“My experience with the BBC is as follows. Please feel free to quote or use it in its entirety.

“The BBC gave me no warning that this was an interview in connection with the public promotion of FITNET. They only said that I would be interviewed opposite Esther Crawley. I therefore had no opportunity to do research on FITNET and the study on which it is based.

“The Today programme recorded an interview with me on Monday evening. This took around 30 minutes during which there was no mention of CBT until, at the very end, as if as an afterthought, they asked what I thought of CBT. They only used this clip in their programme.

“The Victoria Derbyshire Show was a live interview. Not until I heard the presenter speaking did I know that this was a programme on FITNET. Until that moment I had been under the impression that we were discussing graded exercise. It stretches credibility too far to believe that this was a coincidence – that neither programme gave me any prior warning of FITNET being the subject of discussion.

“I would have been able to state that the study in which FITNET is based achieved a null result, had I recently checked the details.
“There was also an issue of representation. One critical voice against three promoting the study was not fair representation.

“Altogether I believe this has been appallingly biased coverage. Given the number of parents who have expressed dissatisfaction with Esther Crawley’s treatment to the Tymes Trust, the BBC should be looking more deeply into that.”

Dr Charles Shepherd of the ME Association confirmed that he had been contacted and that he had asked for more detail which apparently was not forthcoming.

In fact Professor Crawley had been under investigation by the GMC since January 2015. I was informed that she was no longer under investigation in the evening of 3 November 2016.

Of course the Science Media Centre is a valuable resource to journalists and other media specialists. That is the whole raison d’etre of the organisation. There are varying opinions about the credibility of some scientific announcements that emanate from the SMC, not surprisingly, on controversial subjects such as CFS/ME. In the light of their past history, I am not surprised that, in promoting Fitnet-NHS as they did, with the generous assistance of the BBC, they ignored the scientific evidence which is beginning to show that the PACE trial recovery figures following CBT and graded exercise therapy (GET) have been grossly exaggerated; they have ignored valid criticism of the Dutch trial where, again, the recovery figures were inflated, and they have ignored two major reports from the USA, one of which rejected the Oxford criteria for diagnosis which were used in the PACE Trial and later added an addendum to their Pathways to Prevention (P2P) report which downgraded the status of CBT and GET as effective treatments for CFS/ME the evidence was insufficient.

In order to get a proper perspective on CBT trials, I draw your attention to the following links:

www.virology.ws/2016/11/21/trial-by-error-continued-the-new-fitnet-trial-for-kids/

www.virology.ws/2016/11/28/trial-by-error-continued-a-follow-up-post-on-fitnet-nhs

www.virology.ws/2016/12/o2/trial-by-error-continued-the-dutch-studies-again-and-esther-crawley-bonus/

I have taken a lot of care to highlight the very genuine concerns of the ME community about the spending of a reported £1 million on a research study which is simply attempting to justify the belief of the researchers in their own hypothesis – that CFS/ME is a post viral condition compounded by false illness beliefs held by patients. We are not threatening or harassing Professor Crawley; we are simply pressing her to recognise that the science behind this illness if moving very rapidly away from the psychosocial behavioural model. I hope that you will treat these concerns with the same care.

Yours sincerely

Countess of Mar
 

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I think it's going to be a while before any substantial response is forthcoming!! I don't see how they can reply to this with a couple of lines and there is some homework to be done... so it will be interesting to see how they spin the reply, because it will be a challenge ;)
 

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The Countess of Mar really is a tour de force; not a word wasted, brilliant at developing an argument. Even this letter will not breach the BBC's defensive wall, but will be a telling shot nonetheless, unlike most which just bounce harmlessly off.
 

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Note the 1st and 3rd links in the letter seems to be invalid URLs, and should be:-

http://www.virology.ws/2016/11/21/trial-by-error-continued-the-new-fitnet-trial-for-kids/
(the original has a stray space character, showing as %20 in the actual URL, which seems to sometimes work and sometimes not).

http://www.virology.ws/2016/12/02/t...ch-studies-again-and-an-esther-crawley-bonus/
("02" not "o2", & "and-an" not "and").

Damn. Anyone got any contact with her to let her know?
 

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Note the 1st and 3rd links in the letter seems to be invalid URLs, and should be:-

http://www.virology.ws/2016/11/21/trial-by-error-continued-the-new-fitnet-trial-for-kids/
(the original has a stray space character, showing as %20 in the actual URL, which seems to sometimes work and sometimes not).

http://www.virology.ws/2016/12/02/t...ch-studies-again-and-an-esther-crawley-bonus/
("02" not "o2", & "and-an" not "and").

Found her official e-mail address and sent her your corrections along with thanks for her work.
 

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Found her official e-mail address and sent her your corrections along with thanks for her work.
Yes, I also thanked her when I advised re the URLs. Not only is the Countess of Mar impressively competent/potent, but I also believe she is very ethical and honest, with little time for those who are not ... as well as being very well placed - an overall combination that makes it much harder for people to totally ignore her. I think anything we can do to help her, and others like her, can only be positive.