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Conversing With Professor Simon Wessely- Part 1

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS News' started by Sherby, Aug 29, 2010.

  1. Sherby

    Sherby Sherby

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    Heres a link to an interesting read from, Living With Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, site
    by cfssufferer. August 29, 2010

    http://livingwithchronicfatiguesyndrome.wordpress.com/

    Theres a lot to take in but hopefully you guys might find interesting.

    It will take me days to read and take in.
     
  2. Sala

    Sala

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    Very very interesting! :Sign Good Job: cfssufferer!!
     
  3. Sunshine

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    Wessely quote from above link. The same Wessely who chose the patients for Myra McClure's failed XMRV study in CFS psychiatric patients. Wessely's patients.

    Is Weasel a liar, or does it suffer from memory loss? Weasel is directly involved in politics, as he is is science advisor to the British press, including news on CFS/ME and XMRV/MULV, which ominously has not been reported since the latest updated via Alter/Lo at the FDA. He has also been quoted in Guardian newspaper over XMRV.

    This was another important quote.

    He's listed three fatal diseases as CBT having 'good results' for. Importantly the conditions he lists do not have CBT as the ONLY and the SOLE intervention recommened.

    If you only offer CBT for HIV, patients die
    If you only offer CBT for Cancer, patients die
    If you only offer CBT for Heart Failure, patients die

    Yet CBT is only offered for 'CFS/ME' in the UK and thus some patients die also, due to patients having increased risk of Cancer & Heart Failure in CFS (Jason et al, 2006).
    http://www.theoneclickgroup.co.uk/documents/ME-CFS_docs/Causes of Death - CFS Patients.pdf

    Uniquely the simple offer of psychiatric treatments or nothing else, well this is NOT the case in any other non psychiatric illness, especially in a condition that decreases life span and causes gross disablity due to neuro immue symptoms. To me this is the single failing people make when trying to make their point again psychological theorists.

    CFS is not classified as a psychiatric illness, and so until it is then all claims against it are damaging to the patient population. (ME is also not classified a a psychiatric illness either, but a neurological disease).
    To 'theorize' as the CDC, Reeves and others do in public is actually to promote deaths in people with the badge 'CFS'. Remember this when suing your health authority/hospital in the future when you get a future diagnosis of XMRV/MULV induced neuro immune disease.

    The excuse in the court room of trying to defend CBT & Exercise for CFS/ME of ''but we thought you were mentally ill'' won't wash..... because CFS never was a psychological disease, officially.

    The CDC and Weasel in the UK in association with the UK NHS Health service and Department of Health have no where to run now XMRV/MULV is found in CFS/ME patients. Think about it....

    1) If they make CFS into a 'new' disease (GRAD) then people will sue for misdiagnosis and lack of care as there was no evidence they previously has CFS due to no diagnostic test.
    2) If they keep CFS and make subsets of neuro immune disease, then people will sue for discrimination and psychological damage as no mental illness was ever proven, and their CFS was never a psych disorder!


    Hence the negative XMRV findings in the Weasel and CDC studies and the other psych who says ME doesn't exist also. (All gross bias). Take out the political bias, and people find XMRV/MULV.
     
  4. Sherby

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    He certany is in a world of his own.
    That world is call Arrogance.
     
  5. Enid

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    Missed the point hasn't he. The intervention of he and his cohorts in Psychiatry set in motion the most devasting treatment for all who suffer from M.E. Science at last is proving him wrong. What a good time to make his exit.
     

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