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Connection between hypercoagulation and thyroid

Discussion in 'Thyroid Dysfunction' started by drob31, Jul 17, 2015.

  1. drob31

    drob31 Senior Member

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    Relationship between thyroid hormones and fibrinogen levels.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10636459

    Low serum thyrotropin is associated with high plasma fibrinogen.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16303831


    It seems that hypercoagulation has a big impact on your thyroid. From a CFS perspective, it is known that thyroid issues are commonplace. I wonder if many of the symptoms could be attributed to this?

    http://www.doctormyhill.co.uk/wiki/Hypothyroidism_-_A_Common_Hormonal_Problem_in_CFS
     
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    drob31 Senior Member

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    In case your wondering a natural way to address this, fibrinolytic enzymes like serrapeptase, nattokinase, and lumbrokinase can help breakdown and dissolve excess fibrin. In particular, lumbrokinase seems to be the most effective.
    https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=lumbrokinase
     
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    aquariusgirl Senior Member

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    David berg looked at my ISAc panels ....said I had a ton of fibrinogen if I recall correctly....not hypercoag per se though
     
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    Have you tried anything to lower your fibrinogen? Lumbrokinase is very powerful for this.

    Also, antiphospholipid antibodies can cause high fibrinogen.
     
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    Taken lumbrokinase nattokinase off & on...didn't notice any difference.....maybe too many other things going on
     
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    Yeah, I know it should be decently high dose on an empty stomach at least 2-3x a day, for a few months.
     
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    aquariusgirl Senior Member

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    I am almost to the point I can't swallow this crap any more ... Tooooooo many pills!!
     
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    Yeah, I know, it seems like a never ending trial of supplements.
     
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    I was sad to hear David Berg retired. What did he say the difference between hypercoag and fibrinogen were? I though they were the same.
     
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    he didn't explain.. but the treatments are different ...heparin vs. enzymes.. i think
     
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    is he retired from consulting with arizona consultants
    ?
     
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    Sushi Senior Member Albuquerque

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    He also looked at my ISAC test. It tests 4 different aspects of hypercoag as those likely to be found in ME/CFS patients. I "qualified" and did 7 months of low dose, low molecular weight heparin injections followed by regular nattokinase. This helped my general condition though I was not, at that time, at the disabled level.
     
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    Do you know if there is anyone left who can interpret this panel? I just had it run a few weeks ago, still waiting for the results.
     
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    Sushi Senior Member Albuquerque

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    A knowledgeable doctor--though I don't know who that would be. My doctor worked with Dr. Berg to interpret it for me.
     

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