Conclusion - I NEED Glutathione (mthfr, problems with b vitamins, and absorbtion)

[DFams]

TL;DR Version

I have terrible health problems, especially my digestion, also have MTHFR (and likely other mutations), copper problems, etc. 100% certain of being an "overmethylator" or what that means to some MTHFR specialists (high seratonin, low histamine - "histapenia", and clearly have some major issues with my transsulfation pathway).

The answer to EVERYTHING, for my health however, is apparently Glutathione. And lacking it, is THE reason I'm this sick and unable to get better... I am certain of this after taking Lyposomal GSH. But it's wasn't enough, so I need to get tested for it, and ultimately (hopefully) get it by injections, or IV, or SOMETHING that helps my Glutathione levels. It is THE way, and the only way, I will ever get better - since my MTHFR treatment has STOPPED working. But my doctor's are idiots, and stubborn, obstinate fools. Can't get them to order any more tests. Don't know of any MTHFR/glutathione specialists, much less if my insurance will accept any such treatments.

I've also come to the conclusion that lacking Glutathione is completely responsible for my poor digestion, which is BY FAR, my biggest complaint, and also my biggest hurdle in getting better... being unable to absorb the nutrients/supplements I need to get better.

So my questions for this forum are as follows...

1) What is the best way to proceed from here? Find a doctor who specializes in glutathione/treatment? Or how can I convince my doctor to test for it?
2) Are there even "glutathione specialists" or types of doctors (hematologist, rheumatologist, gastro, whatever) who would be more knowledgeable of that particular pathway, who might have a brain, and be able to assist me in testing, understanding, and treatment of this?
3) Does insurance usually cover said treatment? I can't work, due to being this sick, so I'm on state Medicare
4) Would stopping my MTHFR treatment be necessary, or wise, for said tests - especially since if I stop ... my kidneys will probably shut down, as explained below.
5) Looking for an MTHFR specialist to actually get better... but the one's who claim to be as such, don't take my insurance on appointments (tests they order do though, apparently). Or are there any particular type of doctor that has better knowledge than others of MTHFR

So far I've seen my primary, a GI, and a hematologist... all of which are trying to tell me MTHFR really is only a "blood and cardiovascular thing" and there's little evidence to anything else, or even the blood thing in the first place. Despite the mountains of evidence and studies and doctors out there, even in this country, telling people and other doctors to the contrary.

So it would have to be a doctor who might be "up to date" on this information, and not reading out of a textbook from the 90s.
6) If folate, b12, and b2, even my methylated B complex, all seem to have stopped working, because I have so much "oxidative damage", or whatever reason - that they aren't absorbed properly, much less causing any methylation to happen - is there anything else I can do to get them, or methylation, to work again?

Since other glutathione cofactors don't seem to work, and seem to absorb even worse than the B vitamins, or cause MORE oxidative damage (as with every food and supplement I eat, no mater how "healthy"). Even lypo glutathione, and that works... but barely (haven't tried pill form, since I heard it really doesn't help and I can't afford to waste money) . The fact that it's a fat I have to absorb, and hard on my digestion, kinda defeats the purpose.
7) Anything else at all, anyone can give me for advice...




The Longer Version (might be insightful to those trying to help, and to others seeking help... but also a bit ranty, sorry)

I'm 32 and I've been sick for forever, literally, my entire life. But the worst of it, the past 6-7 years, by far. Trying and trying and trying to figure out what's wrong with me, tried every protocol, diet, supplement, herb, whatever, on the face of the planet - nothing. Meds from doctors have only made me worse, sicker, more/new symptoms, etc

Finally found out that MTHFR exists, when my mother told me about it not long ago, and that our entire family has it (relatives and all) and is the cause of a ton of their problems... went to my doctor (against all logic, and out of desperation since they're basically what made me this bad, with all their meds, in the first place). Went through hell just to get her to do the test, couldn't get any other SNP, or MTHFR related tests out of her.

Even though I'm 100% certain of the fact that I have other mutations, likely quite a few of them. In particular ones that cause me to be

Don't even know why she's so against doing tests, she's a new doctor for me. I gave no indication that I hated doctors (for reasons above), was completely willing to do everything she wanted, not pushy, am extremely polite (despite my endless frustration), and only 'asked' for a couple other tests before this. Most tests that I asked for, or that she ordered on her own, have shown that I CLEARLY have something very wrong with me, going on.

Blood in my urine, protein in my urine, kidney problems (a constant complaint of mine), liver enzymes elevated for a straight 5 years now, and ofc the last one being the MTHFR diagnosis that she tried to tell me "I don't even have the mutation at all, because it's not homozygous (from both of my parents)". FACEPALM. One doctor even insisted I was a tremendous alcoholic after looking at some GI test they did... despite my mom telling him I hadn't had a drop in years.

Anyway... after my kidneys basically shutting down, complaints of terrible digestive problems for over 15 years, complaints of liver issues, detox issues, pains that you wouldn't believe, all different kinds of literally nonstop headaches and migraines, etc etc - and basically 0 real concern/response/help from my doctors. I took matters into my own hands... again (as I've been basically doing for the past 17-18 years).

Researched and took the MTHFR treatment on my own... SUCCESS!! Finally found something that actually WORKED, for once EVER. Something that actually made a positive benefit to me... despite having to go through "methylation hell". Taking mostly folate, b12, b2, I made leaps and bounds, and regardless of side effects... actually FINALLY felt like I was actually making some progress... my digestion was improving, my migraines (particularly the last, terrible new one) were going away, I could SLEEP (worst insomnia my whole life), I was actually urinating again...

Oh btw, did I mentioned I STOPPED PEEING? Flat out, just stopped urinating before this treatment. Was eating healthy (veggies and meat only, no spices/oils/butter), drinking lots of water, exercising, going to bed early... and somehow actually GAINING weight. Drank 1/4-1/3 gallon of water a day... pee'd maybe 2 oz, per day. On top of kidney pain so bad it kept me up all night. No concern to my doctor (imagine that).

So anyway... after about 3 months of solid improvement, and even "methylation hell" going away, it all just suddenly STOPPED. That's right, just out of the blue... folate slowly stops being effective, b2 makes me WORSE, and I can't digest b12 in ANY form or ANY way of taking it (even sublingual - just destroys my stomach). Tried increasing the doses, particularly folate... nothing.

So I went online, did more research... even came here and found people discussing glutathione, and that after a while that phase of the liver/pathway needs to be treated. Especially considering that's basically MTHFR/folate's ultimate job... is pushing cysteine towards glutathione, rather than homocysteine.

SO I go through another few months, frantically (losing my freaking mind because something FINALLY HELPED ME and then just STOPPED) trying to get my body to produce more glutathione... trying all the co-factors... different combinations of the original B vitamins I was taking, different foods, more types of exercise... nothing. Just, no help. Even bought a Methylated B complex and took that... that helped... but not even freaking close to enough. Zinc also had a good effect on me a couple years ago, but that ended quickly when I could no longer digest it... now it just flat out destroys my stomach.

Just a few days ago, randomly tried taking the Lyposomal Glutathione I bought a year ago (expired now, wonderful lol)... AMAZING. The thing that made me feel MUCH worse when I took it the first couple times a year ago (cannot digest fats well at all... probably the worst problem I have, and lypo GSH is a fat), suddenly WORKED. And not only did it work... it relieved a ton of my digestive complaints, kidney pains, migraines, body aches, etc...

And not only that... oddly enough, when I took my methylated B complex (but not folate/b12/b2 by themselves) AFTER taking this lypo GSH, the methylation hell symptoms came rushing back... meaning the "methylation" from these vitamins was actually working again, not to mention the vitamins themselves... so maybe it was just an absorbtion thing all along, and glutathione actually helped that, I guess?

Well, problem is... as with everything... after a few days. THAT stopped working, too. Or at least, it's not as effective... only because I simply cannot digest it well enough. Like I said, very bad fat digestion problems... and it seems that with how bad my body is, the glutathione gets used up faster than I can absorb it..... SO, I'm basically just going around in circles with my body, getting worse and worse as time goes on... I can't digest the nutrients I need to make glutathione and heal, because my digestion is so bad due to lacking glutathione, due to lacking the nutrients needed to make it...

So here I am, ranting on these forums with even just a small percentage of my full story. Currently trying different combinations of things to get the glutathione to work again (taking it every other day, 2 packets every 3 days, taking it with glutamine (don't know if that did anything at all), alternating b complex, etc)... but also trying get my body to a point where it can start producing it on it's own again. And looking for help from any who can offer it...

Any information on this at all would be appreciated beyond words... even if it's just a hunch. But please specify if it is or not...

 

[matt3n]

Sorry, posted your quote before I wrote anything. Stupid phone. More to follow..

OK - and now I'm not sure if this posted but I've moved to the laptop and the draft is still there, so phew!

Everything I write is definitely in "hunch" territory, and maybe no help at all. That's my disclaimer.

So wow, I can relate to the frustration. Not sure I can help much either other than to commiserate but we're both in our 30s and for some reason that made your post resonate with me.

Probably 99.9% of doctors ARE idiots when it comes to helping us - and as you've found out, the ones who can help mostly don't take insurance.

So unfortunately no help there. About glutathione: I've heard good things about acetyl-glutathione, which is not cheap but I think less than liposomal (funny, I just threw out some that had expired!)

It's in tablet form though so don't know if you could stomach it..

I stopped taking GSH when I read poster Freddd's views and bad experiences with it. Then had a bad experience myself when I tried precursors again, which I may still be recovering from almost 4 months later..

It might not be true for you, but it could also explain how it made methylation supps work again. What he thinks it does, is combine with all the active B12 in your body, which is then rapidly eliminated in the urine as glutathionyl-cobalamin.

So it might have given you a case of acute B12 (and folate since the cell needs one to hold onto the other) deficiency. Then you would get "start-up" symptoms (aka "hell") again.

Many don't agree with him, but he seems very sure and if right it could imply that the supps didn't necessarily stop working, but instead you hit a plateau and now need to find the next piece in the puzzle that your body is missing.

He has lists of mostly basic stuff he thinks everybody needs, and then some like Sam-E and D-ribose, which help some people a lot and others not at all.

Sorry if you already know this stuff from the forums and/or have good reasons for thinking externally-given glutathione really is what you need!

But it IS expensive, so hopefully there are ways to get the body to make what it needs (as I think you wrote, properly working methylation is supposed to provide all that you need - no more, no less).

Has digestion always been a problem? I've had issues off and on (but mostly on) since my very early 20s. Once it was because of too much regular vitamin C (plain old ascorbic acid). Took me years to figure out that was causing me so much pain .. and other stuff!

Usually it's not that simple, but you never know. Hope you can find something that helps with that so you can tolerate everything else. And sorry doctors are so unhelpful. Maybe in 100 years it will be different.

 

[matt3n]

I should add that I'm pretty sure I'm an under-methylator. BUT, I'm not sure I believe that over-methylation is a real "thing" - but that's very much a hunch-thing based on my own experience, where it turned out increasing methylation supplements (and potassium) was always the answer. Or that's what I think today anyway. Since I'm better but far from "cured", I'm more of a study on how much stuff somebody can take without killing himself than a role model.

But briefly my logic on it is that symptoms of over-methylation are normally what Freddd calls "ATP start-up" and they go away if people are able to stick with it. My intuition tells me that things either need to be methylated, or they have nothing to do with methylation. So you're either methylating enough, or not enough, but "too much" doesn't really mean anything. But honestly - nobody really knows anything, which is what makes all our stuff so freaking frustrating.

Oh, and what your doctor said about the MTHFR gene being recessive isn't necessarily wrong. But that whole area is SO much more complex than one or two SMPs, and Freddd says genes don't seem to say much about who benefits from his Active B-12s Protocol so I suspect that that test might be helpful in convincing them if you're double-positive, but unfortunately not otherwise. It's like how they treat thyroid based purely on the TSH test, even if you have clear hypothyroid symptoms. I think both things are particularly stupid because the treatments for either are statistically probably safer than giving somebody a baby aspirin! So why they don't let suffering people try things that might help is beyond me. (Well, money is part of it but there's also a sort of arrogance they must teach at med school..).

I'm heterozygous for A1298C (?) and don't have the other, better known, one at all, but my mood and fibromyalgia pain have definitely improved as I've gotten closer to actually following Fredd's suggestions (which also involves giving up as many other things as is practical, because so many drugs and herbs apparently interfere with methylation or folate-uptake, and for some reason many people can't take high doses of B1, B2, and B3 and maybe other B's when they're getting enough methyl-B12, adenosyl-B12, methyfolate, and l-carnitine fumarate - or acetyl-l-carnitine in some cases. But then others swear they do need high doses, and they might be right because of malabsorption, or who knows?).

Just noticed my signature. Fact check (lol): I've never really tried going "low and slow". I did try nothing for a while, and that did NOT work.. Must be what my brain-fogged mind meant.

 

[Hip]

I have terrible health problems, especially my digestion,

Why don't you detail them? In your post, you have hardly said anything about the nature of your health problems. You have not detailed your symptoms, you have not detailed what illnesses doctors have diagnosed you with, you have not said what illnesses you yourself think you might have.You have not provided any of your medical history (eg, infections, toxic exposures, etc). You have not provided any details of the severity of your illness (ie, do you work/study, are you housebound and unable to work, are you bedbound?).

If you are asking for some ideas and suggestions about improving your health, it would help to know what you are suffering from.

The answer to EVERYTHING, for my health however, is apparently Glutathione.

I am certain of this after taking Lyposomal GSH.

OK, so glutathione you find quite helpful. You can try buying some glutathione powder, and administering this transdermally on your skin. This can be a good way to absorb glutathione. You can rub say a gram of glutathione powder on the skin of your thighs, and then just add a few drops of water to help it absorb.

I can't digest the nutrients I need to make glutathione and heal, because my digestion is so bad due to lacking glutathione, due to lacking the nutrients needed to make it...

You can also try taking glutathione-supporting supplements like N-acetyl-cysteine transdermally.

It is THE way, and the only way, I will ever get better

I've also come to the conclusion that lacking Glutathione is completely responsible for my poor digestion, which is BY FAR, my biggest complaint, and also my biggest hurdle in getting better... being unable to absorb the nutrients/supplements I need to get better.

It may not be wise to place all your eggs in one basket, regarding the factors that may be underpinning your ill health.

5) Looking for an MTHFR specialist to actually get better... but the one's who claim to be as such, don't take my insurance on appointments (tests they order do though, apparently). Or are there any particular type of doctor that has better knowledge than others of MTHFR

You many want to read some of the skeptical articles on this currently fashionable but unproven idea that MTHFR polymorphisms cause a whole array of illnesses:
Dubious MTHFR genetic mutation testing « Science-Based Medicine

Even though I'm 100% certain of the fact that I have other mutations, likely quite a few of them.

Everyone has many thousands of mutations. Generally nothing to worry about.

On top of kidney pain so bad it kept me up all night.

Did you doctor diagnose you with kidney pain, or is it your own diagnosis? I ask because it is also possible to have pain coming from the muscles in the kidney area, and it can be hard to work out the actual source of the pain.

You may want to see your doctor about this pain, and see if he can work out where it is coming from.

So anyway... after about 3 months of solid improvement, and even "methylation hell" going away, it all just suddenly STOPPED. That's right, just out of the blue... folate slowly stops being effective, b2 makes me WORSE, and I can't digest b12 in ANY form or ANY way of taking it (even sublingual - just destroys my stomach). Tried increasing the doses, particularly folate... nothing.

This is not at all unusual in the case of ME/CFS patients. In ME/CFS it is a very regular occurrence for drugs or supplements that were helping at one stage, to suddenly stop working, for no apparent reason.

 

[Critterina]

How about a 4R gut-rebuilding program? It seems like maybe your gut issues are overshadowing the other things - again, hard to tell since you omit symptoms.

Also, in your thousands of tests from hundreds of doctors, did your morning cortisol check out OK? Did you have an ACTH test? I ask because nocturnal bilateral flank pain (which I would have described as kidney pain) can be an adrenal crisis symptom, although the insomnia would be independent of the pain (you might always have insomnia, whether or not you had the pain).

 

[PatJ]

Even lypo glutathione, and that works... The fact that it's a fat I have to absorb, and hard on my digestion, kinda defeats the purpose.

Terry Naturally Glutathione is a small tablet that melts slowly in the mouth. Maybe the slower delivery would help reduce the digestive difficulty?

This form of glutathione has worked well for me, although it took about two weeks before I noticed the very positive effects on my mood, enthusiasm, and reduced sensitivity to certain types of light and sound. I now consider it to be an essential, life changing supplement for me.

Have you tried using a digestive enzyme that contains lipase to help with fat digestion?

 

[Malachi]

I'm new here, so please forgive me if I'm "green" on this, but.. what about coffee enema's? Have you tried that to get glutathione?

 

[DFams]

Thanks for the responses so far. Currently far too tired/exhausted to make proper responses to the comments here atm, but I'll try and do so soon...

But I will say that I'm not looking to be diagnosed, either by doctor or on here. I've been through it 'all' already. I've tried every protocol, diet, and supplement (enzymes included which actually make my digestion worse), drug, and type of doctor in existence that could have to do with my giant list of symptoms. Which is btw is too long and mostly irrelevant to this thread, since as I said in my OP, I already know what the problem is. I just need to get tested for it so I can get the treatment.

I appreciate the replies so far, although without trying to sound rude in the least, I'd appreciate more specific answers to my listed questions, and although I know my post a big ranty mess, please understand that I said the things I said for a reason. About MTHFR, my certainty of glutathione deficiency, overmethylation, mutations, etc.

Atm I'm just looking for answers. Although Acetyl Glutathione has very much sparked my interest... and something I think I want to try for sure. I think I'll make a seperate thread asking some (brief) questions about it before I go spending that much though.

 

[cman89]

Thanks for the responses so far. Currently far too tired/exhausted to make proper responses to the comments here atm, but I'll try and do so soon...

But I will say that I'm not looking to be diagnosed, either by doctor or on here. I've been through it 'all' already. I've tried every protocol, diet, and supplement (enzymes included which actually make my digestion worse), drug, and type of doctor in existence that could have to do with my giant list of symptoms. Which is btw is too long and mostly irrelevant to this thread, since as I said in my OP, I already know what the problem is. I just need to get tested for it so I can get the treatment.

I appreciate the replies so far, although without trying to sound rude in the least, I'd appreciate more specific answers to my listed questions, and although I know my post a big ranty mess, please understand that I said the things I said for a reason. About MTHFR, my certainty of glutathione deficiency, overmethylation, mutations, etc.

Atm I'm just looking for answers. Although Acetyl Glutathione has very much sparked my interest... and something I think I want to try for sure. I think I'll make a seperate thread asking some (brief) questions about it before I go spending that much though.

from my personal experience, there is certainly a point where supplements stop becoming effective and too many actually hampers your progress. Im really big on looking at elements in one's diet that may potentially be missing form normal status due to poor digestive capability. In other words, rather than focusing on trying to plug every potential hole in each biochemical reaction in the body, we want to look at both SNP related deficiencies, and also nutrients we should be getting from diet that may be lacking. for example, it would be ideal to be taking b-vitamins that should be in diet, rather than trying to take every methylation co-factor possible. In the beginning of every regimen, it can help to have more supplements in your toolkit, but ultimately this can be more harmful than not if carried on for too long. Doses should always be titrated up, rather than bombarded in a blunt force manner. Also, after a while, supplements should not have as much of an impact, because if they are working properly, then your body is utilizing them in the correct manner, and it becomes much more routine in nature. This may be part of your frustration, as you may not feel as if you are "buzzed" by your supplements, when in fact, they could simply be working as they should. I have fallen into that trap, where I get disappointed by my supplements losing effectiveness, when I realize that as a whole, I am functioning better. One last thing that many people tend to overlook- some supplements, especially B-Vitamins, degrade over time, and dont work as well as when you first bought them. B-12 is notorious for doing this, and by the time I finish a sublingual bottle, I am basically eating candy for all that it matters. This could potentially be an issue for you as well. Good luck and feel free to ask away on the forums here.

 

[Hip]

I already know what the problem is. I just need to get tested for it so I can get the treatment.

If you look at the link I posted earlier, it provides a link to a list of MTHFR specialists:

In addition to Lynch’s “research,” and providing information on getting tested for MTHFR mutations, Lynch helps readers “Find a Doctor,” but to be listed you must have attended or purchased one of Lynch’s courses. Most of the “doctors” are NDs, with a smattering of MDs, DCs, RNs, LAcs, and homeopaths. (It is always interesting to see how many naturopaths are openly diagnosing and treating patients in states where they are not licensed.)

Ben Lynch has removed the list recently, but you can still find the original list on the Wayback Machine. I'll just post this list below:

Spoiler: MTHFR Specialist List

Australia
Briana Gunn, ND
Perth, Western Australia
www.brianagunn.com

Carolyn Ledowsky
BHSc (Naturopathy), BHSc (Herbal Medicine)
MTHFR Support Australia
Neutral Bay, NSW
www.mthfrsupport.com.au

Karen Green
BHSc (Nutritional Medicine), Adv. Diploma Naturopathy & Herbalism, Fitgenes Practitioner, NLP Practitioner, Bachelor of Education (Adult Trainer)
Queensland, Newcastle and Skype Consultations available. Member NHAA.
www.gaininghealthnaturally.com.au

Lisa McDonald
BA, Masters Management and Advanced Diploma Naturopathy
Sydney, NSW
www.indigosagehealth.com.au

Kate Norris, MBChB FRACGP MACNEM
Peninsula Holistic General Practice
Rosebud, Victoria
www.peninsulaholistic.com.au

Kate Powe
Adv. Dip. Naturopathy; B.A
Sydney, NSW
www.katepowe.com

Kylie Seaton BHSc (Nat), Adv Dips Nat, WHM, Hom, Nut
Kylie Seaton Naturopath Homeopath
Sydney, NSW
www.kylieseaton.com.au

Patricia Vandenberg- Smith
BHSci (Naturopathy)
Journey To Health
Western Sydney, NSW
www.journeytohealth.com.au

Claudette Wadsworth
BHSc, BA, Adv DN, Nut D, DRM, PostGrad NFM, MATMS, MNHAA
Better Health Clinic
Bondi Junction, NSW
www.claudettewadsworth.com.au

Dorota Wroblewska
BHSc, Adv. Dip. of Naturopathy, Adv. Dip. of Western Herbal Medicine, Adv. Dip. of Homeopathy, Diploma of Nutrition
Randwick, NSW
www.solutionstohealth.com.au

Min Yeo
MBBS FRACGP M.Mus (Dist), F Mus A
2 Heeley St
Paddington, NSW
www.Siochanta.com

Marie Lacey
BHSc (Complementary Medicine)
Carrara, QLD
www.marielaceynaturopath.com

Colleen Rowe
BHSc (Naturopathy)
Colleen Rowe Naturopath
Ashgrove, QLD
www.colleenrowenaturopath.com.au

Michael Smith
BHSc (Naturopathy and Nutrition)
Planet Naturopath
Agnes Water, QLD
www.planetnaturopath.com

Lyn de Silva
DHM, DCH, ND
Healing Oasis
Montville, QLD
www.healingoasis.com.au

Rohan Smith
BHSc (Nutritional Medicine)
Adelaide, SA
www.elementalhealthandnutrition.com.au

Karen Chipperton, RN, ND, HD, Dip. Nut.
The Blossom Clinic
Melbourne, Victoria
www.Blossomclinic/naturaltherapypages.com.au

Anne Digby
M. Repro Med (current), M. Public Health, B Midwifery, Grad Dip West Herb Med, ND
Melbourne, Victoria
www.digbyhealth.com

Alessandra Edwards
BHSc (Herbal Medicine) Adv Dip (Naturopathy) FitGenes certified practitioner
Reclaim Your Health
Melbourne, Victoria
www.reclaimyourhealth.com.au

Susan Hunter
BHSc (Naturopathy)
Melbourne, Victoria
www.reclaimyourhealth.com.au

Samantha Marks
BHSc (Naturopathy)
Melbourne, Victoria
www.nurturenaturopathy.com.au

Cheryl Penna
BHSc (Naturopathy)
Certification with A4M / A5M anti-aging medicine
Certification with ACNEM in Australia
Northcote, Victoria
www.urbansense.com.au

Shirley Strachan
BHSc (Complementary Medicine)
Geelong, Victoria
www.bodymindstudio.com.au

Kaye Wright
BHSc (Naturopathy)
Melbourne, Victoria
www.lavidahealth.com.au

Madeleine David, BNatTher, AdvDipNat, BA (Psych),MANTA,MNHAA
Perth, Western Australia
www.madeleinedavid.com.au

Serena Kay
BSc (Immunology, Zoology)
Advanced Diplomas: Naturopathy, Homeopathy, Western Herbal Medicine
Tara Health Centre
Perth, Western Australia
www.taracentre.com.au

Dr.Sanjeev Sharma, MD(Psychiatry)FRANZCP
Consultant Psychiatrist
Abbotsford Psychiatry
Perth, Western Australia

CANADA
Kaleigh Coolsaet, BSc, ND
Marine Drive Naturopathic Clinic
North Vancouver, BC
www.marinedrivenaturopathic.com

Sacha Elliott, ND
Canopy Integrated Health
North Vancouver, BC
www.drsachaelliott.com

Jennifer Forgeron, ND
Yorkville Integrative Health Clinic
Toronto, ON
416-920-4325

The Hoffman Centre for Integrative Medicine
Dr. Bruce Hoffman, MSc, MBChB, FAARFM
Calgary, AB
www.hoffmancentre.com

Meaghan McCollum, ND
Naturmend
Calgary, AB
www.naturmend.com

Fiona McCulloch, BSc ND
White Lotus Integrative Medicine
Toronto, ON
www.whitelotusclinic.ca

Bryan Rade, ND
Sackville Naturopathic Centre
Halifax, NS
www.sackvillenaturopathic.com

Mexico
Beatriz Gallagher, CNS, PhD
Integrity Dental & Medical
Chapala, Jalisco
www.integritydentalhealth.com

South Korea
Jungwuk Park,MD.Ph D.
Korean Society of Integrative Functional Medicine
Seoul, South Korea
www.ksifm.com

Seog Sam Park,MD
Korean Society of Integrative Functional Medicine
Seoul, South Korea
www.ksifm.com

United Kingdom
Angela Bailey, BA(Hons), Dip RSA, DipION
Cheshire Natural Health Clinic
Cheshire, UK
www.angelabailey.org

Jack Galloway, BA(Hons), CISSN, mlFM
London, UK
www.jackgalloway.co.uk

Liz McWatt, RGN,DNMed,MLCHom,DA,DTM
Holistic Healing
Cumbria & Lancashire, U.K.
www.holistic-healing.org.uk

Anne Pemberton, BSc(Hon), PGCE(autism),RGN,Dip.ION, MSc (nutritional medicine)
Nutri-Med
Leeds and York, UK
www.nutrimed.co.uk

Tom Sokolowski, MA,Dip NT,ND
Wisdom Nutrition
London & Devon, UK
www.wisdomnutrition.co.uk

USA
Arizona

Dane Buxbaum N.D. PLLC
Naturopathic Primary Care emphasizing Dietary & Lifestyle Medicine
Phoenix, AZ
www.DrDaneBuxbaum.com

Robin Terranella, NMD
Southwest Integrative Medicine
Phoenix, AZ
www.swintegrativemedicine.com/

California

Joseph Aiello, DO
San Diego Center For Integrative Medicine
La Mesa, CA
www.sdintegrativemedicine.com

Lynn Altieri-Need, FDN
Advocate for Healing
Mammoth Lakes, CA
www.advocateforhealing.com

Amy Charnay, CNS/RYT
Amy Charnay
Santa Rosa, CA
www.amycharnay.com

Jim Cross, N.D., L. Ac.
We Are On Common Ground
Quincy, CA
www.weareoncommonground.com

David Daily, ND
The Center for Health and Wellbeing
San Diego, CA
www.chwbonline.com

Reed Davis, CN
Functional Diagnostic Nutrition
Poway, CA
www.fdnmanager.com

Dr. Afrouz Demehri, ND
Costa Mesa, CA
www.aimforwomen.com

Sharon Dittmer, DC
Vitality & Wellness Center
San Rafael, CA
www.vitalityandwellnesscenter.com

Teray Garchitorena Kunishi, ND
Deeply Happy
Berkeley, CA
www.deeplyhappy.com

Sheila George, MD/CA
Center for Metabolic Wellness
Los Angeles, CA
www.centerformetabolicwellness.com

J. Claire Green, ND, Nutrition, Homeopathy
Santa Rosa, CA
707-490-7053

Angela Griffiths, DC
Griffiths Functional Medicine & Chiropractic
Pleasanton, CA
www.AngelaGriffithsDC.com

Bridget Grusecki, ND
Radiant Health
Sebastopol, CA

Farmacopia
Santa Rosa, CA
www.drbridgetgrusecki.com

Simon Hodson, MA
Tam Counseling
San Francisco, CA
www.tamcounseling.com

Camille Holstein, ND
Heavenly Inspiration Wellness Center
Clovis, CA
www.heavenlyinspirationwellnesscenter.com

Donna Kelley, CN
Concepts of Optimal Nutrition
Sutter Creek, CA
www.donnakelleynutrition.com

Elizabeth Korza, ND
Berkeley Naturopathic Medical Group
Berkeley , CA
www.berkeleynaturopathic.com

Christina Martinez, ND
San Diego Center For Integrative Medicine
La Mesa, CA
www.sdintegrativemedicine.com

Robert Mathis, MD
Baseline Health
Santa Barbara, CA
www.baselinehealth.net

Lily Mazzarella, CNS
Farmacopia
Santa Rosa, CA
www.farmacopia.net

Ricardo Miranda, L.Ac.
Westside Acupuncture & Wellness Center
Los Angeles, CA
www.acupuncture.cc

Dr. Andrea Rosario, DC
Functional Longevity Institute
Sacramento, CA
www.flihealth.com

Trudy Scott, CN
Food, Mood & Women’s Health
Rancho Cordova, CA
www.everywomanover29.com

Barbara Solomon, MS CNS
Functional Health
San Diego, CA
www.functionalhealth4u.com

Tara Stoop, ND
Berkeley Naturopathic Medical Group
Berkeley , CA
www.berkeleynaturopathic.com

Sheila Wagner, PT/CN
Finally Fix Your Health
Larkspur, CA
www.finallyfixyourhealth.com

Bernhoft Center for Advanced Medicine
Los Angeles, CA
www.bernhoftcam.com

Colorado

Carrie Ballus, FNP-C
Boulder Integrative Health
Boulder, CO
www.boulderintegrativehealth.com

Randy Bimestefer, L.Ac.(N.C.C.A.)
Genesis
Denver, CO
www.innerscience.us

Jill C. Carnahan, MD
Flatiron Functional Medicine
Boulder, CO
www.jillcarnahan.com

Gail Dawson, NP
Wholeness Center
Fort Collins, CO
www.wholeness.com

Terri Fox, MD
Holistica Integrative Care
Boulder, CO
www.holisticacare.com

Fred Grover Jr. M.D. FAAFP
Integrative, Functional, Anti-Aging and Wellness-Oriented Primary Care
Denver, CO
www.revolutionarymd.com

Shelby Kahl, RDH/PC
Shelby L. Kahl
Fort Collins, CO
www.shelbykahl.com

Carol Lipper, MD/ABIM/ABIHM
Carol Lipper, MD, LLC
Denver, CO
www.gordianknotofhormones.com

Steve Ottersberg, MS
Namaste Health Center
Durango, CO
www.namastehealthcenter.com

Shelese Pratt, ND
Flatirons Naturopathic Clinic
Niwot, CO
www.drprattnd.com

Francesca Quinn, ND/CMT
Vitality Natural Medicine
Denver, CO
www.vitalitynaturalmedicine.com

Mary Shackelton, ND
Holistica Integrative Care
Boulder, CO
www.holisticacare.com

Jacqui Slavin, DC
Functional Wellness
Denver and Avon, CO
www.functionalwellness.com

Coleen Walsh, MFA/NTP
Harvesting Nutrition
Denver, CO
www.harvestingnutrition.com

Nasha Winters, ND/LAc
Namaste Health Center
Durango, CO
www.namastehealthcenter.com

Conneticut

Kendra Becker, ND, FNP, APRN
Family Wellness Centre of Connecticut
Waterford, CT
www.fwcct.com

Christine Louden, ND
Connecticut Center for Health
West Hartford, CT
www.yournaturalhealth.com

Carol Mann
New England Brain Training Associates
Stonington, CT
www.nebraintraining.com

Henry Sobo, MD
Optimal Health Medical, LLC
Stamford, CT
www.drsobo.com

Florida

Steven D’Antonio, ND, AP
Whole Family Healthcare
Winter Park, FL
www.wholefamilyhealthcare.com

Aylin Ozdemir, MD/FAAP/ABIHM
Pediatric Associates of Jacksonville
Ponte Vedra, FL
www.doctorojax.com

Maggie Ruiz-Paedae, DOM, AP, NT
Dr. Maggie – Evidence-Based Medicine
Orlando Fl, 32819
www.doctormaggie.com

Georgia

Sage Campione, D.O.
Dr. Sage
Saint Simons Island, GA
www.docsage.com

Hawaii

Laurie Steelsmith N.D., L.Ac.
Steelsmith Natural Health Center
Honolulu, HI
www.DrSteelsmith.com

Sarah Strong, ND
Hilo Natural Health Clinic
Hilo, HI
www.HiloNaturalHealth.com

Idaho

Monika Buerger, BA,DC
Eagle Canyon Wellness Center
Ammon, ID
www.eaglecanyonwellness.com

Susan Hegstad, MD
Boise, ID
http://www.healthgrades.com/physician/dr-susan-hegstad-292mh

Amy McDougal, Pharm.D
Teton Sage
Rexburg, Idaho
www.TetonSage.com

Sara Rodgers, ND/CAc
Idaho Naturopathic Medicine
Boise, ID
www.idnatmed.com

Illinois

Rindie Coker, DN
Rindie Coker
Villa Park, IL
www.rindiecokerdn.com

Annette Kohn-Lau, ND, CTN
Cottonwood Healing Center
Northbrook, IL
www.cottonwoodhealingcenter.com

Alicia Miller, ND
Natural Care Clinic
Naperville, IL
www.naturalcareclinic.org

Heather Shannon, LCPC, CHC
HWCA of Chicago
Chicago, IL
www.hwcaofchicago.com

Cynthia Smith
Life Zone Wellness LLC
Chicago, IL
www.lifezonewellness.com

Mary Veltri, BSN
Healthy Foundations
Northbrook, IL
www.yourhealthyfoundations.com

Indiana

Steve Pfeifer, MD
Health & Wellness of Carmel
Indianapolis, IN
www.hwofc.com

Iowa

Stephanie Gray, DNP, ARNP
Integrative Health and Hormone Clinic
Cedar Rapids, IA
www.ihhclinic.com

Louisiana

Debbie Hannan, DC
Chiropractic Health Center
Metairie, LA
www.hannanwellness.com

Maine

Lowell I Gerber, MD MS FACC
Lifestyle & Age Management Medicine
Freeport, ME
www.youngerleanerme.com

Bethany Hays, MD/FACOG
True North Health center
Falmouth, ME
www.truenorthhealthcenter.org

Corrie Merinaro, ND
New England Naturopathic Health
Waterville, ME
www.newenglandnaturopathichealth.com

Aline R. Potvin, ND
Heartwood Family Health
Farmington, ME
www.heartwoodfhc.com

Michigan

Marjie C. Andrejciw, MT (ASCP), MS, NC
Circle of Life Nutrition
Fenton, MI
www.circleoflifenutrition.net

Tony L Boggess, D.O.
Natural Balance Wellness Medical Center
Ann Arbor, MI
www.naturalbalancewellness.com

Michelle Crowder, ND
Rochester Hills, MI
www.michellecrowder.com

Doug Cutler, ND
Cutler Integrative Medicine
Southfield, MI
www.cutlerintegrativemedicine.com

Minnesota

Sara Jean Barrett, ND
Alternative Solutions for Health
Minneapolis, MN
www.AlternativeSolutionsMN.com

Helen C. Healy, ND
Wellspring Clinic
St. Paul, MN
www.helenhealynd.com

Lori Hulsing, ND
All Seasons Integrative Health
Minneapolis, MN
www.allseasonsintegrativehealth.com

Steven Parnell, MD
Dulcimer Medical Center
Fairmont, MN
www.dulcimermedicalcenter.org

Hugh Wegwerth, D.C.
Bandana Chiropractic and Wellness Center
Minneapolis, MN
www.BandanaChiro.com

Bernarda Zenker, MD
Trinity Integrative Medicine
Burnsville, MN
www.trinityintegrativemedicine.com

Missouri

Emily Hecker DC, CNC, BS
Thrive for Life | Integrative Nutrition
Frontenac, MO
www.thrive4lifeNOW.com

Robert Kessinger, DC
Kessinger Health & Wellness Diagnostics Centre
Rolla, MO
www.drkessinger.com

Rhonda Simons, DO
Image Evolutions – Wellness & Beauty
Kansas City, MO
www.drsimonssays.com

Rajiv Yadava, DO
Des Peres Hospital
St. Louis, MO
https://sites.google.com/site/drrajivyadava/

New Jersey

Elaine Hardy, MS, RN, APN, C
Holistic Family Healthcare, PC
Hackettstown, NJ
www.holisticfamilyhealthcarepc.com

Melissa Josselson, ND
Melissa Josselson
Cherry Hill, NJ
www.mynaturaldoctor.com

New Mexico

Wholistic Kinesiology Center
Los Ranchos, NM
www.wholistickinesiologyinstitute.com

New York

Jill Cruz, MS, CNS
Health Is Freedom, LLC
Spring Valley, NY
www.bodywisefoodsmart.com

Sheila George, MD/CA
Center for Metabolic Wellness
New York, NY
www.centerformetabolicwellness.com

Mary Gocke, RD/CDN
Blum Center for Health
Rye Brook, NY
www.blumcenterforhealth.com

Anne VanCouvering, ND/CNS/LMT
Hamptons Naturopathic
Sag Harbor, NY
www.hamptonsnaturopathic.com

Christian Wenstedt
Vital Objectives Health Education & Coaching
New York, NY
www.VITALOBJECTIVES.com

North Carolina

Marie Andersson, DC
Sage Wellness Group
Hendersonville, NC
www.drmarieandersson.com

Michael Citron MS, MD
FoundationMED
Raleigh, NC
www.foundationmed.com

Ohio

Ed Hemeyer, MD
NOMS Allergy & Environmental Family Medicine
Bellevue, OH
www.edhemeyermd.com

Keith Ungar, DC
Functional Endocrinology of Ohio
Akron & Independence, OH
www.balancingyourchemistry.com

Patty Shipley, ND, NP, RN
Leaves of Life
Columbus, Ohio
www.leavesoflife.com

Oklahoma

Michael D Leu, ND, Pharm. D
Dr. Leu’s Pathways to Wellness
Jenks, OK
www.drleu.com

Oregon

Alicia Bigelow, ND
National College of Natural Medicine Clinic
Portland, OR
www.drbigelow.com

Shannon Brown, ND/LAc
Dr. Brown House Calls
Portland, OR
www.dr-brown.com

Julie Brush, ND
2bwell Clinic
Portland, OR
www.2bwell.net

Jennifer Curtis, ND
Nature’s Path Family Wellness
Portland, OR
www.naturespathfamilywellness.com

Lisa Dickinson, ND
Lisa Dickinson
Portland, OR
www.lisadickinsonnd.com

Signy Erickson, LMT/DC
Light Works Healing Arts
Bend, OR
www.iahp.com/SignyErickson

Usha Honeyman, DC/ND/DABCI
Dr. Honeyman
Corvallis, OR
www.ushahoneyman.com

Chris Kleronomos, FNP-BC/DAAPM/DAOM-LAc
Fibromyalgia & Neuromuscular Pain Center of Oregon
Corvallis, OR
www.pain-puzzle.com

Larry Lubcke, DC, DABCO
Health Touch Chiropractic
Tigard, OR
www.healthtouch.info

Julie Martin, DC
Chiropractic & Individualized Medicine
Sisters, OR
www.docmartinwellness.com

Cristin McQueen, FNP
Portland, OR
http://www.healthgrades.com/provider/cristin-mcqueen-xy6cy

Jennifer Means, ND/LAc
Singing River Natural Medicine
Beaverton, OR
www.singing-river.com

Linda Meloche, ND/LAc
Abbey Road Clinic
Carlton, OR
www.abbeyroadclinic.com

Elissa Mendenhall, ND
Amenda Clinic
Portland, OR
www.amendaclinic.com

Molly O’Neill, ND/LAc
Bloom Natural Healthcare
Portland, OR
www.bloomnaturalhealthcare.com

Virginia A. Oram, ND
Blair Centre for Natural Medicine
Eugene, Oregon
www.droram.com

Erica Peirson, ND
Down Syndrome Treatment Center of Oregon
Portland, OR
www.downsyndrometreatment.net

Stacey Raffety, ND/LAc
Tigard Holistic Health Clinic
Tigard, OR
www.tigardholistic.com

Kelly Raylinsky,ND
Pearl Natural Health
Portland, OR
www.pearlnaturalhealth.com

Jens Riogeist, L.AC.
Newberg Natural Health Center
Newberg, OR
www.Newbergnaturalhealth.com

Louise Rose, ND
Rose Cabinet Medicine
Portland, OR
www.rosecabinetmedicine.com

Kathy Sawhill, ND
Dandelion Naturopathic PC
Beaverton, OR
www.docsawhill.com

Daniel Smith, ND
Bear Creek Naturopathic Clinic
Medford, OR
www.bearcreekclinic.com

Ashley Sullivan, ND
Amenda Clinic
Portland, OR
www.amendaclinic.com

Cory Tichauer, ND
Bear Creek Clinic
Medford, OR
www.BEARCREEKCLINIC.com

Louise Tolzman, ND
Yew Medicine
Portland, OR
www.yewmedicine.com

Eddie Vickers, ND/LAc
An Hao Natural Health Care Clinic
Portland, OR
www.itmonline.org

Jeanette Welker, APPRN, FNP-BC
Oregon Optimal Health
Eugene, OR
www.oregonoptimalhealth.com

John Winters, ND
Winters Naturopathic Clinic
LaGrande, OR
www.wintersclinic.org

Sharon Woodard, ND
Good Life Medicine Center
Portland, OR
www.goodlifepdx.com

Pennsylvania

Robert Miller, ND
Tree of Life Health Ministries
Ephrata, PA
www.tolhealth.com

Rhode Island

Pamela Shervanick, DO
Dr. Pamela Shervanick
Barrington, RI
www.idealliferi.org

Tennessee

Eric Potter MD
Sanctuary Medical Care and Consulting, PLLC
Northeast/Middle Tennessee and Southwest Virginia
www.sanctuarymedicalcare.com

Philip Roberts MD, MS, ABAARM
Balanced Life and Health
Franklin, Tennessee
www.balancedlifeandhealth.com

Texas

Amber Brooks, DC, CACCP, BSN
Whole Child Wellness
Dallas, TX
www.mychildwellness.com

Gail Clayton, RPH
Houston, TX
www.beyondpharmcaceuticals.com

Manisha Ghei, MD, ABIM, ABIHM, IFMCP
Praana Integrative Medicine & Holistic Health Center
Sugar Land, TX
www.praanaim.com

Emily Gutierrez, DNP, CPNP, APRN
Neuronutrition Associates
Austin, TX
www.neuronutritionassociates.com

Jamie L. Guyden, MD
Evolve Integrative Care
Austin, TX
www.evolveintegrativecare.com

Liesa Harte, MD
Elite Care
Austin, TX
www.drliesa.com

Chandra Higginbotham, MD
The Women’s Health Solution
Houston, TX
www.drhiggie.com

Arland Hill, DC, MPH, DACBN
Complete Care Wellness Center
Webster, TX
www.completecarewellnesscenter.com

Jana Roso, MSN, RN, CPNP
Neuronutrition Associates
Austin, TX
www.neuronutritionassociates.com

Tayma Shaya, MD
Methodist Family Medicine Group
Sugar Land, TX
www.methodistfmg.com

Jennifer Trejo, ND
Abundant Life Wellness Center
Fort Worth, TX
www.abundantlifewellnesscenter.com

Utah

Nancy Foster, APRN/PHD
Therapeutic Lifestyle Center of Utah
Salt Lake City, UT
www.healthgrades.com

Thad Jacobs, ND/LAc
Summit Integrative Medicine
Salt Lake City, UT
www.summitintegrative.com

Thad Jacobs, ND/LAc
Summit Integrative Medicine
Park City, UT
www.summitintegrative.com

Jeff Wright, ND
Utah Valley Health Clinic
Provo, UT
www.utahvalleyhealthclinic.com

Vermont

Bill Warnock, ND
Champlain Center for Natural Medicine
Shelburne, VT
www.vtnaturalmed.com

Virginia

Leah Hollon, ND/MPH
Richmond Natural Medicine
Richmond, VA
www.richmondnaturalmed.com

Lynese Lawson, DO
Proactive Wellness Centers
Vienna, VA
www.proactivewellness.com

Katie Lundberg, ND/LAc
Cedar Natural Medicine
Seattle, WA
www.cedarnaturalmedicine.com

Washington

Matt Angove, ND
Angove Family Medicine
Chehalis, WA
www.angovefamilymedicine.com

Tom Ballard, ND
Pure Wellness Centers
Seattle, WA
www.purewellnesscenters.com

MelindaBower, ND
Madrone Natural Health
Seattle, WA
www.madronenaturalhealth.com

Joanne Butler, NTP/CNFC
Abc’s of Wellness
Richland, WA
www.abcsofwellness.com

Ryan Campbell, ND/LAc
Stability Spine & Wellness
Seattle, WA
www.stability-spine.com

Lynn Carlene, MA, LAc, LMFT
Alexander Cunningham Health Services
Port Townsend, WA
www.lynncarlene.com

Lynn Chadd, MSN/ARNP
Lynn Chadd Natural Healthcare
Peshastin, WA
www.lynnchadd.com

Holly Christy, ND
Element 7 Wellness
Bainbridge Island, WA
www.element7wellness.com

Brenden Cochran, ND
Interactive Health Clinic
Lynnwood, WA
www.interactivehealthclinic.com

Sean Congdon, ND
Bastyr Center for Natural Health – Practioner Care
Kenmore, WA
www.healthprofs.com/cam/name/Sean_Congdon_ND_Seattle_Washington_510623

Adrianne M. Cook, ND
West Seattle Natural Medicine
Seattle, WA
www.westseattlenaturalmedicine.com

David Deichert, ND/ARNP
Seattle Healing Arts Center
Seattle, WA
www.seattlehealingarts.com

Paul De Jong, ND
Northwestern Clinic of Naturopathic Medicine
Bellingham, WA
www.nwclinic.com

Amy Derksen, ND
Holistic Healing Arts
Edmonds, WA
www.holistichealingarts.org

Alyssa Dirienzo, ND
Sage Medicine
North Bend, WA
www.drdirienzo.com

Carol Doroshow, MD/FAAP
The Kids Clinic
Seattle, WA
www.thekidsclinic.us

Katrina Emoto, ND
Gig Harbor Naturopathic Medicine
Gig Harbor, WA
www.gigharbornaturopathic.com

Rachel Erickson, ND
Emerald City Naturopathic Clinic
Seattle, WA
www.seattle-naturopath.com

Alethea Fleming, ND
Vital Aging Clinic
Anacortes, WA
www.vitalagingclinic.com

Mary Frazel, ND
Natural Choices Health Clinic
Portland, WA
www.naturalchoiceshealthclinic.com

Marnie Frisch, ND
Whole Health Naturopathy
Olympia, WA
www.olympianaturopath.com

Sheng Ge, DAOM, L.AC, PHD
Wellness Life Acupuncture
Seattle, WA
http://www.healthgrades.com/provider/sheng-ge-ytcyn

Tim Gerstmar, ND
Aspire Natural Health
Redmond, WA
www.aspirenaturalhealth.com

Joshua Goldenberg, ND
n1Health
Bothell, WA
www.northsore.n1heath.com

Rachel Gorzawz, MD
Paradigm Family Medicine
Renton, WA
www.paradigmfamily.com

Corine Harpster, ND
Laurel Natural Medicine
Kirkland, WA
www.doctorcorinne.com

Jeff Harris, ND
Naturopathic Healthcare
Seattle, WA
www.jeffharrisND.com

Jennifer Heiger, ND
Bella Fiore Klinik
Seattle, WA
www.bellafioreklinik.com

Elizabeth Hesse Sheehan, DC/QN
Experience Health, Inc
Woodinville, WA
www.experiencehealth.info

Evan Hirsch, MD/ABIHM
Hirsch Center for Integrative Medicine
Olympia, WA
www.doctorevan.com

Larry Hooper, MD
Molecular Testing Labs
Vancouver, WA
www.molecularTestinglabs.com

Laura James
ND/FABNO
Red Cedar Wellness
Bellevue, WA
www.redcedarwellness.com

Elinor Jordan, ND
East Olympia Healing Arts
Olympia, WA
www.eastolympiahealingarts.com

Carmen Kaperick, MSW/LICSW
Optimal Life Wellness
Bellevue, WA
www.optimallifewellness.com

Michael Kaplan, ND
Tahoma Clinic North Seattle
Seattle, WA
www.tahomaclinicnorthseattle.com

Kelsey Klausmeyer, ND
Institute of Complementary Medicine
Seattle, WA
www.icmedicine.com

Melissa Kohler, ND/LAc
Natural Health Clinic of Olympia
Olympia, WA
www.naturalhealthclinicofolympia.com

Cynthia Kotarski, ND
Dr. Cynthia Kotarski
Seattle, WA
www.drkotarski.com

Alex Kraft, ND/LAc
Element 7 Wellness
Bainbridge Island, WA
www.element7wellness.com

Anastasiya Lenskiy, ND, LAc
Bellevue Natural Medicine
Bellevue, WA
www.bellevuenaturalmedicine.com

David Lerner, LAc/MTCM
Hirsch Center for Integrative Medicine
Olympia, WA
www.David-Lerner.com

Emily Lesnak, ND
Bastyr Center for Natural Health
Kenmore, WA
www.bastyrcenter.org

Katie Lundberg, ND/LAc
Cedar Natural Medicine
Seattle, WA
www.cedarnaturalmedicine.com

Lucinda Messer, ND
Pacific Health Restoration Center
Kirkland WA
www.Drlucinda.com

Wayne Moore
Moore Chiropractic, DC
Gig Harbor, WA
www.moorechiro.com

Kelly Moyaert, ND/LMP
Seattle Integrative Medicine
Seattle, WA
www.seattleintegrativemedicine.com

Susan Mueller, ND
Vitae Natural Health
Kenmore, WA
www.docsusannd.com

Janel Newman-Kovacev, ND
Generations Natural Health Clinic
Covington, WA
www.mygenerationclinic.com

Tanya Paynter, ND
Evergreen Naturopathic
Spokane, WA
www.evergreennaturopathic.com

Jane Pemberton, MD
Seattle Healing Arts Center
Seattle, WA
www.seattlehealingarts.com

Jena Peterson, ND
Fullcircle Natural Medicine
Seattle, WA
www.doctorjena.com

Lara Plecher, ND
Wenatchee, WA
www.mydrlara.com

Alycia Policani, ND
Evergreen Naturopathic
Spokane, WA
www.evergreennaturopathic.com

Andreanna Rainville, RN/CN
Holistic Healing Arts
Edmonds, WA
www.holistichealingarts.org

Sarah Rattray, PhD
Sarah Rattray Health Optimization Specialist
Shoreline, WA
www.drsarahrattray.com

Caroline Rose, MD
Pacific Medical Center
Beacon Hill, WA
www.pacmed.org

Nadya Rubinstein, ND
Natural Reflections Healthcare Clinic
Mountlake Terrace, WA
www.nrhclinic.com

Annette Sacksteder, ND/EAMP
Institute of Complementary Medicine
Seattle, WA
www.instituteofcomplementarymedicine.com

Christine Schaffner, ND
Bella Fiore Klinik
Seattle, WA
www.bellafioreklinik.com

Christine Schaffner, ND
Sophia Health Institute
Woodinville, WA
www.sophiahi.com

Sheetal Shah, ND
Radiant Naturopathic Wellness Clinic
Redmond, WA
www.radiantnaturopathic.com

John Sherman, ND
Tahoma Clinic
Tukwila, WA
www.tahomaclinic.com

Lorina Shinsato, ND
Primavita Family Medicine
Redmond, WA
www.primavitamedicine.com

Elizabeth Smoots, MD/ABFM
Elizabeth Smoots, MD, LLC
Seattle, WA
www.drsmoots.com

Steve Speidel, ND
Poulsbo, WA
http://www.healthgrades.com/provider/stephen-speidel-ybj8g

Patricia Sylwester, MD
Vital Rejuvenation
Olympia, WA 98502
www.wellnessolympia.com

Stephanie Taylor-White, ND
Naturopathic Wellness Center
Monroe, WA
www.wellnesscentermonroe.com

Elizabeth Trautman, ND/LM
Columbia Basin Natural Family Medicine
Moses Lake, WA
www.cbnfm.com

Michelle Tureotte, ND/NMD
Connected Wellness Center
Redmond, WA
www.connectedwellnesscenter.com

Lindsay Wais, ND
Absoute Wellness Clinic
Issaquah, WA
www.absolutewellnessclinic.com

Ara Walline, ND
Cedar Life Family Medicine
Seattle, WA
www.clfmedicine.com

Lori Wieser, ND
Natural Healing Family Medicine
Elma, WA
www.naturalhealingfamilymedicine.com

Les Witherspoon, ND
Meditrinalia Naturopathic
Seattle, WA
www.meditrinalia.com

Rhian Young, ND
Purity Integrative Health
Mill Creek, WA
www.purityintegrativehealth.com

Alena Zweben, ND
Market Place Naturopathic
Seattle, WA
www.dralenazweben.com

Washington D.C.

Arti Melita, ND
Aloe Wellness
Washington D.C.
www.aloewellnessdc.com

Rhodo Nguyen, ND
Aloe Wellness
Washington D.C.
www.aloewellnessdc.com

Wisconsin

Susan Bargidreat, CN
Holistic Health Center
Viroqua, WI
www.susancnt.com

Sage Campione, D.O.
Dr. Sage
Elm Grove, WI
www.docsage.com

Laura Davis, ND
Integrative Family Wellness Center
Milwaukee, WI
www.ifwcenter.com

Michele Nickels, ND/LAc
IFW Center
Brookfield, WI
www.ifwcenter.com

Scott Vander Wielen, DC
Vander Wielen Health & Wellness Diagnostic Center
Menasha, WI
www.healthymetoday.com

Ann Johnson, RN
WildHeart Strong, LLC
Online
www.annljohnson.com

 

[kangaSue]

@DFams You might want to read this http://www.holistichelp.net/blog/when-nutritional-supplements-make-you-worse/ to see that it's not usually as simplistic as taking a single supplement to correct everything.

There are many other causes of GI dysfunction than can progressively prevent you from tolerating things, many of which are auto-antibody (autoimmune) related so the tolerance issues doesn't go away until the antibodies are reduced, if you're lucky, and providing of course that they haven't already caused permanent nerve damage. Sjogren's Syndrome is one that can be slowly progressive over the course of a decade before a positive antibody result is encountered.

Most of your abdominal symptoms could be accounted for by some form of (gastrointestinal?) vasculitis if that hasn't already been ruled out by a contrast CT scan (or ANCA antibodies in blood tests) and there are a number of other connective tissue disorders which result in GI dysfunction that can have some overlap of symptoms.

Complex GI stuff is never straight forward I'm sorry to say and I've had the same downward spiral for many years too without the complications of having ME/CFS too but with not a lot of answers either.