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Completely eliminated my severe anxiety symptoms with three supplements!

Discussion in 'General Treatment' started by Hip, Jul 7, 2012.

  1. Lotus97

    Lotus97 Senior Member

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    I have mercury toxicity and Lyme disease. Methylation seems to be making my anxiety and overstimulation worse so I'm going to stop that for awhile (at least the active B12s and folates). Rich has said that both mercury and Lyme disease can present problems for people trying methylation.

    It seems like my physical symptoms are feeding into mental symptoms. Most of the time people say mental anxiety causes physical symptoms (which is true), but it can be the other way too such as the expression of "the tail wagging the dog". Of course it's also possible that sometimes physical symptoms could be stored emotional pain.

    Personally, I've found that being on the right supplements/medications, proper nutrition, getting enough sleep, and limiting activities and sources of stress to be the most helpful.

    When I was younger I'd be very tired and fatigued from chronic insomnia or if I did too many activities, but at some point things changed and now I'm more wired if I don't get enough sleep or spend too much time at the computer or other activities. If I wake up and I'm relaxed or even sort of drowsy I know I've slept well. I don't know why my body is doing this. Could it be adrenal problems? I had my DHEA and Cortisol tested a few years ago. My Cortisol levels were out of normal range (both high and low). I don't understand what that means and for some reason I never asked my doctor.
     
  2. Hip

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    For more information on taking very low dose amisulpride — one of the treatments in my list at the beginning of this thread that I found works well for anxiety (and many other ME/CFS symptoms) — see this new thread:

    Amisulpride — A Multipurpose Drug for ME/CFS
     
  3. Lotus97

    Lotus97 Senior Member

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    Are you taking whole herb or standardized extract? Also, do you cycle adaptogens like Bacopa?
     
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    Hip Senior Member

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    Whole herb. I get it cheap in bulk powder from a local Asian store.

    This thread may answer your question: Do we need to cycle adaptogens/herbs?
     
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    hello lotus

    this might the info you are looking for
    http://www.chronicfatigue.org/ASI Normal.html
     
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  6. Lotus97

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    Right now I'm cycling adaptogens 8 weeks on and at least 2-4 weeks off. I stagger the cycles so I'm always on a couple at the same time. Although some adaptogens can be stimulating for some people, most people find them useful for stress, anxiety, and adrenals. They include Bacopa, Holy Basil, Ashwagandha, Gotu Kola, Rhodiola, Reishi mushrooms, Cordyceps mushrooms, Schizandra/Schisandra, Goji berry/Wolfberry, Eleuthero, and Rhodiola. Bacopa, Ashwagandha, Gotu Kola, and Reishi are especially good for improving cognitive function. Rhodiola and Eleuthero are good for depression. Reishi, Cordyceps, Eleuthero, and Holy Basil are good for the immune system. Goji has an extremely high ORAC score (measure of antioxidant capability). Holy Basil lowers Cortisol.

    Something else that hasn't been mentioned is garlic. It's good for both anxiety and depression. The garlic must be raw/uncooked for it to work. If you're going to put on food you need to add the garlic after the food has been cooked. Some of the side effects of garlic can be acid reflux, brain fog, and dry mouth. It can also kill probiotics and cause die-off/Herxheimer reaction if it kils Candida, Lyme, or other pathogens.
     
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  7. Hip

    Hip Senior Member

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    A while ago I got some feedback from Christopher on this forum, who tried N-acetylglucosamine (NAG), and told me the following:
    Note that N-acetylglucosamine is (probably) contra-indicated in Lyme disease, as NAG is a necessary nutrient for Borrelia.
     
  8. Deeee

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    Dear friends im 33 m from India,yesterday i was searching for usage of raw turmeric which i have myself cultivated in my backyard space of my house,hmm not too much ,around 20 kg while searching i got this thread,found it very useful as i am on antidepressants for last 12-13 years for general anxiety disorder,depression,ocd,the med im taking is as follows-fluvoxamine- 150 mg/day,venlafluvoxamine xr-150mg/day,& clonazepam 1.5 mg,these med i m taking regularly for last 8 years,it irritates when i think of these,some times i think im living dual personality as people in my surrounding except my family members do not know about this when ever i think of my future with these med, i feel very bad,i m getting tired day by day,my immune system has became very poor,some times with other disease i get confused,beside this i am also suffering from irritable bowel syndrome which keep my my stomach upset,i m also worried specially about clonazepam which im taking 1.5mg daily for sleeping,u people can better understand me, i want to get rid of all these specially clonazepam,i have a little daughter of 3 yr age, i do not see my future very bright,you people were talking about NAG, turmeric,slack seed oil will it work for me also,kindly advice me.​
     
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    Hi Deeee,growing your own turmeric sounds fun ! :)
    I grew my own tomato plant last year,they were the best tasting toms ive ever tasted.

    I dont know alot about meds but theres many people on here that do.
     
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    I'm sorry to hear about your health. I know what that's like:ill:. Unfortunately, it really comes down to trial and error because everyone is different. Hopefully some of the suggestions in this thread work for you. From what I understand Bacopa, Holy Basil, Ashwagandha, and Gotu Kola originate from India so maybe you could find out about growing those too although there does seem to be a debate whether to take whole herbs or standardized extracts.
     
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    thanks lotus and seewell for the reply,on query from local market ( haridwar),i found NAG and SLACK SEED oil is available here,turmeric is available with me, will it work for me,kindly advise if yes then wht abt dosage and form of these supplement.
     
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    If the tumeric is whole herb it might be a couple grams, but with everything it's always good to start at a low dose and work your way up.
     
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    Deeee

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    going to start taking 1 spoon slack seed powder,crushed at home,lets see the result.
     
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    Deeee

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    CONFUSED with turmeric as it is in root form with me,bitter taste?????empty capsules are not available here
     
  15. Lotus97

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    yeah, I don't like the taste too much either which is why I don't take it. If you like V8 it might be good mixed with that or with food? iHerb has free international shipping for orders over $40. I don't know what your budget is like, but they do have tumeric in capsules. The tumeric products are often called curcumin, but it's the same thing. Most brands are selling the extract rather than the whole herb.
     
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    No, turmeric is not the same as curcumin.
     
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    Could you explain? Many brands call it both curcumin and turmeric so I'm a bit confused.
    I think I found the answer to my question. This from a turmeric supplement description.
    Turmeric Root Power enables you to get all the curcuminoids plus much more, because it uses whole ground turmeric. Did you know that there are additional bioactive compounds in turmeric, other than the curcuminoids? And they're all good for you. Also, it's been reported that curcumin has low bioavailability, and that may be true. However, it is interesting to note that one formulation, claiming the highest curcumin bioavailability, first extracts curcumin from whole turmeric leaving the nature essential oils behind, and then mixes the oils back in!
    When you cut a piece of fresh turmeric, your hands turn yellow, an indication that there is good bioavailability, because skin has evolved to be highly resistant to penetration by foreign substances. Also, if you're taking whole turmeric, your stool does not turn yellow. Proof again!
     
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    Turmeric is the name of the spice that comes from the root of the plant Curcuma longa.

    The active constituent principles of turmeric include: curcumin, demethoxycurcumin, bisdemethoxycurcumin, tumerone, atlantone and zingiberone. The curcumin content of turmeric is around 3%.

    So when you buy curcumin, you are getting just the pure chemical compound curcumin. But when you buy turmeric, you are getting a spice that contains 3% curcumin, plus the other active principles.

    I tried both pure curcumin and turmeric, and I found that for anti-anxiety purposes, turmeric was a lot better than curcumin.
     
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    I found a few full spectrum extracts which I assume would be fine (?)
    http://www.iherb.com/Paradise-Herbs-Organics-Turmeric-60-Veggie-Caps/4626
    And also this brand
    http://www.iherb.com/New-Chapter-Turmeric-Force-60-Softgels/75
     
  20. Hip

    Hip Senior Member

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    The cheapest way to get turmeric is in an Asian store, or online from Asian spice suppliers. I bought a whole kilogram bag of turmeric powder for £3. Then you can just swallow say half a teaspoon of the powder with some water. The taste is not unpleasant. I tend to buy a lot of supplements in bulk powder form, because you save so much money that way, often around a 90% reduction in price compared to capsules. A good supplier of bulk powder supplements in general is purebulk.com.
     

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